Do I neeeeeed a PR and DR and VR?

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  1. corliss1

    corliss1 Friend of Leo's Platinum Supporter

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    Title says it all - discuss :D
     
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    backporchmusic Friend of Leo's

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    Why, yes. Yes you do. And you can take that to the bank.
     
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    Why not????
     
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    Guitarteach Poster Extraordinaire

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    No.. You need a JMP!
     
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    Oh for sure you do!! No explanation needed..just do it
     
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    How have you made it this far without them?
     
  7. schmee

    schmee Poster Extraordinaire

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    Maybe.
    The PR is great for recording and very small gigs.
    The DR, if set up properly, will do 90% of gigs other than outdoors or large venues.
    The VR (or any similar 2 x 6L6 Fender BF type) will do those larger gigs, outdoors etc.

    If I had to eliminate one it would probably be the PR as the DR can fill that slot, but less easily.
     
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    corliss1 Friend of Leo's Platinum Supporter

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    @schmee - that's kinda where I was going with this. I have all three, they all sound killer, but I'm pretty sure the DR can do everything the PR could. Being a tech it's not like I'm amp poor or anything.
     
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    Apart from the beautiful trem (and TBH I hardly used mine) I think the PR is least useful. It does have that touch-feel thing of the cathodyne inverter going on which I don't think my VR had.

    The Superchamp with a better speaker and a cap clipped bridges the gap between PR and DR. Adds adjustable gain and a useful mid boost and overdrive to the mix. DR output transformer so it's not as farty as the PR.
     
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    The trem is more...............natural I think? But doesn't have the depth of the others either, even after some bias tweaking. It would record killer though.
     
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    I had to get out a dictionary and look up the word "need" as it relates to gear acquisition. It simply said "SEE ENTRY FOR WANT".
     
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    Sell them all and buy one of the boutique Princeton size amps that take both 6L6 and 6v6, plus has some mid forward capability on one extra knob, neg feedback on another extra knob, and maybe a boost thrown in for Brutish measure.
    To keep some of the PR portability you might want to limit total power to 35w, but that was on your list already.
    Lose the rectifier tube and replace it with a fixed/ cathode bias switch for you squishy PR/ punchy (er) VR sounds and you'll be happy for weeks.
    Then you'll shop for more amps...
     
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    ...Italicized and bold face: says it all right there. Of course, you neeeeed all three. The little PR is (IMHO) good for a bench test amp, in fact all three could serve, if only to demonstrate to your customers what their amps should sound like. Right? Yep.

    Ok, plus, I have a tetchy back, that sometimes requires that I have to tough it out and take the smaller amp to a gig, rather than the heavier iron. Now, maybe that's not a problem you have at this exact moment, but a person needs to plan ahead...
     
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    Probably omit the VR
     
  16. corliss1

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    WAT - if anything, I'm thinking PR.
     
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    No, you need a Pro Jr, DR, SR and maybe a TR.
     
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    @fendrguitplayr - I have a TR I pulled out of a swamp. It had been sitting there for 15+ years. Luckily it was on casters so no damage to the cab. Did a basic cap job and it fired right up. Isn't pretty though :D
     
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    Yeah, while the small amp craze subsides a little, I find I long for the punch and clarity of a bigger amp more than I long for a smaller amp with little headroom.
    Even my preferred 18w Marshalls are often not really quite enough, and they have bigger bottom and more punch than a PR.

    If you need the PR for controlled volume gigs where you just can't be satisfied unless your small amp is cranked to some cosmic sweet spot; you won't be asking this question.
    Same with the weight; if you can't lift a DR you're not asking if you should get rid of the PR.

    I tried vintage PR 20 years ago before the small amp craze really hit hard, and just couldn't find what a few players then loved about the mushy bottom little bugger.

    Noting that some years earlier they were so unpopular that Mesa was gutting them to use just the chassis and cab for MKI Boogies.
    Now that college dorm amps are all the rage, time to sell!
     
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    I'm probably in the minority here, but I think a DR covers 90% of the ground of all three. Certainly cool if you can have all 3 though!
     
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