do all amps break up at volume?

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  1. tombob

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    I had forgot about the Super Twin, those and the UL Twin Reverbs are two amps I wouldn’t even want to try to push into overdrive. I think the UL Twins were something like 135 watts, I don’t remember the rating for the Super Twin but I’m thinking 160 watts. The preamps were both designed to stay clean too so unless you were in another room or did something to mute them some by the time you got them close to OD they would be so loud you probably couldn’t tell much about how they even sound.
     
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    I recall 180 watts for the Super Twin, but at that volume what's 20 watts or so?.
    Al
     
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    Zombiwoof that sounds right, I couldn’t remember for sure. It’s been a while since I’ve been around a Super Twin.
    I love the way the Super T sounds, I’ve always wished they would have used the preamp side in a 45 watt amp. They had a big, warm tone I just never could get one up to it’s sweet spot, they’re just too loud, not to mention heavy as a ship anchor.

    Ted Nugent played at a music festival around here a once and was using 4 Super Twins with a 2x12 (looked like BF Bandmasters or Bassman cabs) under each one. It was a outdoor venue and still so loud it made your head feel like it was going to burst lol.
     
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    People that think a Twin Reverb stays clean all the way up should try one of mine.
    If you do have one that stays clean full up, check the plate voltage. Some SFTRs were lower voltage than the blackface 450 or so.
    Look at the schematics you'll see it there.
    Haven't plugged into an ultra linear or reissue for so long I don't know what those do.
     
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    After thinking about the name of this thread I can say on a technicality that many solid state amps don’t really “breakup” in the traditional sense people usually mean it. I’ve heard quite a few SS amps that go from clean to clipping into nasty distorted tone.
    I know that’s hyper technical nitpicking but this thread is all in good fun anyway.
     
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    codamedia Friend of Leo's

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    When you go to a city dump and they charge your $15 up to a certain weight then $1 per lb over that weight... if you only pay the $15 you have short changed yourself and may wonder how much more garbage you could have brought.

    Same concept....

    Show me an amp that doesn't "eventually break up" then I'd say that amp is not using all of it's power to it's full potential! You may always wonder how much "clean power" it wasn't giving you access to.
     
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    I understand what you mean but so many solid state amps just sound bad when they go past their clean power, they just clip and sound nasty. To be honest since Ibanez came out with the ts808 TubeScreamer where and if a amp breaks up isn’t nearly as big of a deal.
     
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