Ditching your vices and losing weight.

[telemnemonics]

Hey now… nothing wrong with leisure as long as you’re getting some exercise and everyone is secure. Everybody needs to slow down this stupid rat race of selling pretty crap to each other and spend more time with family in recreational and creative pursuits.

Well yeah leisure and relaxation is good, I meant specifically idealizing leisure, as if it was a high goal.

One version of that is the best job is the most money for the least work.

Another version is after work it’s best to snack on the couch while Alexa operates you electronics, ring answers the door dash delivery, roomba cleans up after you etc

 

[middy]

Well yeah leisure and relaxation is good, I meant specifically idealizing leisure, as if it was a high goal.

Ah, to be one of the “leisured class,” yes this requires extracting much wealth from the system through exploitation.

 

[telemnemonics]

Some of them help for some people, but they are not sustainable.
I’m for almost anything that works as long as people realize the lifestyle changes that are necessary to maintain a normal body weight.

I have seen mind blowing results when friends go to zero carbs.
Often they scare me though, gaunt faces with skin hanging loose over bone, I swear I have recoiled in horror and guessed they must be dying if some horrible disease.

Too thin looks sad to me, but self body image can be off like a clock set to the wrong time.

 

[Digital Larry]

I've been doing 16/8 intermittent fasting for a couple years now. Trying to push it even further. I did lose some weight at first but in the last year I wasn't quite as diligent and gained it back, even with the fasting. However, my A1C went from 5.7 to 5.4 the first year, have to get it checked again soon. My primary concern is type 2 diabetes which affected my dad and my older brother says he's dealing with it as well. I also cook from the keto cookbook, without going so far as to go into ketosis, but it reduces carbs pretty severely. But I do have snacks occasionally to deal with those carb cravings. I'm doing 30 minutes on the exercise bike, or a walk, at least 4 days a week, but I never could lose weight just by exercising.

 

[telekaster1999]

I'm really good at losing weight, I've lost 210 lbs. The same 70 3x.

 

[ReverendRevolver]

that's just not true, from info I've seen.

Ditto your comment about oatmeal- it's plenty high in carbs

Not trying to be a jerkyboy about it.

You don't have to do anything but look at the nutritional info.....
Flour tortillas with a serving size of 50g (2 tortillas) has ~21g carbs. Now cut it in half to compare 1 slice of bread at 26g with 12g carbohydrates.

So 10.5 vs 12.

But, 1 tortilla vs 2 slices of bread I'd getting more milage from fewer carbs.

On a side note, corn tortillas made from
Masa harina seems healthier than either other option, albeit with similar carbohydrates to other tortillas.

But it's Soooo much more work than just buying the ones full of preservatives in a store.

Weight loss is different for everyone, consistency is important. Also, budget matters. I don't know what gluten is exactly, but it's plainly the thing that keeps food affordable. Because when you remove it from bread..... ouch.

 

[middy]

I have seen mind blowing results when friends go to zero carbs.
Often they scare me though, gaunt faces with skin hanging loose over bone, I swear I have recoiled in horror and guessed they must be dying if some horrible disease.

Too thin looks sad to me, but self body image can be off like a clock set to the wrong time.

Yes, I’m not patting myself on the back that much. I still have to build some more muscle to keep from looking too skinny. And my glutes must have been mostly fat because now I’ve got a flat butt with a wrinkle at the bottom like an elephant. But I feel good, dangit!

 

[blowtorch]

You don't have to do anything but look at the nutritional info.....
Flour tortillas with a serving size of 50g (2 tortillas) has ~21g carbs. Now cut it in half to compare 1 slice of bread at 26g with 12g carbohydrates.

and then there's this
"In a 6” flour tortilla, you can expect to find approximately 15g of carbohydrates. A similar-sized corn tortilla will offer around 14g of carbs. A single slice of white bread will offer a similar amount of carbs as a 6” corn tortilla: around 14g. Whole-grain bread actually offers slightly fewer carbs, around 12g."

Tortilla vs. Bread: Which is Healthier? - blog

When comparing tortillas vs. bread, you might think there’s a simple answer to the healthier option.

ohmydish.com

which brings up the point that it doesn't help one bit that a lot of this available information clashes

for instance i remember years ago reading from a nutritionist that diabetica should steer far clear from cottage cheese, and recently I've read it to be fully approved as a nutritional and relatively safe source of protein

 

[Twofingerlou]

Habits are hard to break!

Snacking you maybe want to totally eliminate?
Basically you need three meals a day, not 5-10-20 or however often the snacking all day ends up.
For me I need to go to a zero number with stuff like snacks or desserts etc, moderation like "I will eat half of this delicious thing in my hand", NEVER WORKS!

I do get the no time for lunch at work, used to eat lunckmand keep working.
But if you have "time" to snack at work, just shift it around and eat one sensible meal you brought with you, and do not bring anything else to eat.

I also eliminated dinner or night time carbs, pretty much, I get more meat or fish with dinner though so tasy enjoyment is not gone.

Take something away, replace it with something just as good or better just not carbs sugary junk food snacks.

Another trick that may help is do not buy any foods that have a list of ingredients.
Buy meat, fish, fruit, vegetables, and carbs that all just the single original thing like a potato or a salmon fillet etc etc.

Yea I’ve been working on replacing the snack at work with something better but I probably need to change that. I have eliminated the ice cream dessert crap and TV dinners.

 

[ReverendRevolver]

and then there's this
"In a 6” flour tortilla, you can expect to find approximately 15g of carbohydrates. A similar-sized corn tortilla will offer around 14g of carbs. A single slice of white bread will offer a similar amount of carbs as a 6” corn tortilla: around 14g. Whole-grain bread actually offers slightly fewer carbs, around 12g."

Tortilla vs. Bread: Which is Healthier? - blog

When comparing tortillas vs. bread, you might think there’s a simple answer to the healthier option.

ohmydish.com

which brings up the point that it doesn't help one bit that a lot of this available information clashes

for instance i remember years ago reading from a nutritionist that diabetica should steer far clear from cottage cheese, and recently I've read it to be fully approved as a nutritional and relatively safe source of protein

I was just thinking about this yesterday....

There's Science, which is very cut and dry, with math, a clear outline if if something is causation or correlation, and generally has data and facts that can be duplicated in tests.
Then there's "science" which has shifting outcomes, wide tolerances, and different results to the same "tests" every few months depending on who the results benefit.

For example, at work there is in fact a formula that generates to show how many hours it takes to stock merchandise on a given truck, broken down by area. It accounts for taking the box off a pallet, using a box cutter to open it, stock it, and putting the cardboard down. Even accounts for anti theft devices when applicable.
But the hours given to schedule the people who do the stocking is based on what corporate thinks we should spend in wages, how sales were the previous year vs forecast this year, and inexplicably hours spent in other areas. Moneys involved, budget wise, so the math and Science gets resculpted to accommodate it instead of the money moving to where science and math say to put it.
Odd how that works elsewhere.
The FDA wouldn't approve Acetaminophen for use today, due to the manufacturer and doctors not agreeing on the proper dosage.

Anyway, I think I'm gonna just go live off of black beans, white rice, and black coffee. Science hasn't changed much on those lately.......

 

[Happy Enchilada]

It has been said that if you come up with a way for Americans to grow hair, lose weight, or stop smoking, you can be a millionaire.

But seriously ...

Eschew carbs.
That includes sugary pop and tea.
And beer and liquor (double bonus points!).
Move more.
Sit less.
Take the stairs instead of the elevator.
Get 20-30 minutes of cardio and break a sweat at least 3 times a week.
Throw in some resistance / weight training for your joints.

In short, don't be like me.

 

[markal]

too late. I'm a fat old man... get over it. I did

Well that’s pretty horrible advice!

 

[Fendereedo]

I have to stick to a tight type 2 diabetic diet, with a very occasional treat, otherwise my blood sugar can either go fairly low, or climb high. My weight is fairly ok, but could be a little lower.

 

[memorex]

 

[radtz]

I was diagnosed with elevated blood sugar about 1 month ago. Since then I cut out sweets and cut way down on carbs. No baked goods, cereal or crackers, but I still might have pasta for dinner every other week or so. I upped my fruit and vege intake. I basically went keto but not completely cut out carbs. I have my next blood test on Thursday. Wish me luck.

 

[tbp0701]

I'm embarrassed to admit how bad off I was, but I dropped half my weight from early 2019 to late 2020 and have maintained since. I guess I'll say how much. 440lbs to holding between 200 and 220. I'm a 6'2" man.

If anyone has interest, here are a few things that helped me:

- I started by keeping a written journal of everything. I was bad off and needed to figure out where I was going wrong. As odd as it seems now I didn't realize how many calories I was consuming through snacking and, especially, when sitting in front of screens. Especially bad as I sat at a computer for work every evening, then got home late and vegged out in front of a TV. I also noted which foods had me feel good with energy and which had me depressed and lethargic.
- Discovering that certain foods caused a hunger/craving cycle, while others have me feel sated for a while. At my heaviest I felt I had an emptiness inside I could not fill. After using the journal and evaluating what I was eating and how I felt I realized most fast, ready-to-eat, and heavily processed food kept me craving more. I think this related to spikes and crashes in blood glucose. But when I ate healthier things like whole vegetables and fruit, I was full for a while and felt better.
- Recognizing and changing bad habits. Eating in front of screens was the major one for me, so I no longer do that. I'll have no calorie beverages at the computer or before the TV. And I watch very little TV now. I also picked up habits that involve daily movement.
- Learning to cook descent meals went a long way to getting me away from an over-reliance on fast/processed food. It's not anything too fancy, either. Mostly vegetables and spices into a pan, pot, or oven, depending on the dish, and something tasty and good in less time than it would have taken to go to a drive through. Using a thermos for work and when travelling also helped.
- With the better diet I had more energy and generally felt better. So I became much more active. I started simply by going for walks and extended the length and types of terrain as I progressed. I also added other exercises (including strength), later added biking, and most recently running. And in general I look for ways to move around during the day.
- Finally, one of the major ones. I was so obese that the amount I had to lose was overwhelming and depressing. So instead of focusing on that I noticed the day to day gains. Things like how much further I was walking before tiring. How much easier stairs were to climb. How much larger clothes and chairs were getting. And most of all how much better I felt. And that today is better than yesterday, this week than last, this month, and so on.

I hope that can help.

 

[Peegoo]

It all comes down to what you're comfortable with.

If you're truly comfortable with being fat, that's fine.

If you're not, do something about it. Don't make excuses. Take charge of your own inner toddler and be a good parent

 

[1stpitch]

I'll throw one more bit of motivation out there. I have been 30-40-50 lbs overweight and out of shape for 20+ years. Then I got sick last fall and lost 40 lbs in 2 months. You never know what is going to hit you. My lesson in hindsight was that I wish I had been in better shape before it hit, so it wouldn't be as much of a struggle to fight it off and survive. I suggest getting as healthy as you can and staying that way.

 

[Twofingerlou]

Since I posted this it’s been ups and downs. While I have put in some solid effort personal family issues have struck again recently, another loss in the family last week and other issues it’s easy to let my guard down focusing on other things. I’ve lost four people close to me the last month, shouldn’t be an excuse but I’ve still kept half an effort not going off the deep end indulging. When the smoke clears I think I’m just gonna have to rip it off like a bandaid and go for broke.

 

[ping-ping-clicka]

i've kicked , party favors,...... Booze, Tobacco, Addictive relationships, risk taking behaviors, dangerous curves on soiled sheets, and quantified religion, mumbo jumbo, flim flam, and carpet lint, tight pants and loose morals, belief in Margret's bright new tomorrow, waiting for the revolution and existential angst, from my decade of experience
I take 'um one at a time.