Disco's Influence in Very Non-Disco Music

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by the time the wall came out, club music was already way past what most call disco (beginnings of hi nrg, boogie, etc.). disco and proto-disco had been going on in philly and NYC for most of the 70s, but it wasn't picked up, chewed up, and spit out by mainstream media until after SNF.

i can see why people who lived through its mainstream peak don't/didn't like it - with the exception of stuff like donna summer or chic, they were oversaturated with a cheap imitation of disco, and then a bunch of rock bands imitated the cheap imitation.

i never understood why the wall or any other high profile rockers doing that were supposed to be so classic or groundbreaking, when much of it was pretty much just repackaging what the disco haters griped about (vs a band like talking heads actually being right smack in the middle of 70s NYC and synthesizing their influences).

if you want to hear the apex of 70s club disco proper, start with salsoul records. first choice, loleatta holloway, all of that stuff. if you like soul and funk, you owe it to yourself to dive into disco. the best of it is basically the perfect blend of the two.
 
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Literally my first thought when I read the thread title.
I Was Made For Loving You was my introduction to KISS - when I was 8 I think.
Essential stuff.
As I posted somewhere else here, I endeavor to keep an open mind, but don't always succeed. I'm still endeavoring with Kiss. That's a really hard one for me.

Anyhow, I know pretty well the influence disco had on a lot of music, and maybe I should have titled that differently, but i got no problem saying something that shows my ignorance if I learn new stuff that I like learning about in the process. The ABITW p.2 thing was just such an unexpected surprise. Jagger was into that whole Stidio 54 scene, and Bowie was a master at absorbing the zeitgeist and than taking it his own way, and there are obviously a ton of other examples (I got two ears), but again, Pink Floyd was a real surprise to me (hence "VERY" non-disco" title).

So all good. Not Kiss, that is, not for me, anyhow, but the rest is mostly all good.
 

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Down at the Grit & Disco grill.
have some Black Crowes 😆

 

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Disco was rejected not because it wasn’t good music. It was rejected because it was associated with the people who were drawn to it.
Well, maybe.
I played full-time in a bar band in 1978, and Saturday Night Fever was 24/7/365.
We'd drive to the gig and it would be on the radio.
We'd show up to set up and it would be on the juke box.
We played stuff from it during our sets.
When we took a break, it was back on the juke box.
Eventually, (took way too long in my opinion) people finally got sick of it.

The drummer and I were roommates, and when we left that band, we ceremoniously burned (melted) our polyester disco shirts.
 

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by the time the wall came out, club music was already way past what most call disco (beginnings of hi nrg, boogie, etc.). disco and proto-disco had been going on in philly and NYC for most of the 70s, but it wasn't picked up, chewed up, and spit out by mainstream media until after SNF.

i can see why people who lived through its mainstream peak don't/didn't like it - with the exception of stuff like donna summer or chic, they were oversaturated with a cheap imitation of disco, and then a bunch of rock bands imitated the cheap imitation.

i never understood why the wall or any other high profile rockers doing that were supposed to be so classic or groundbreaking, when much of it was pretty much just repackaging what the disco haters griped about (vs a band like talking heads actually being right smack in the middle of 70s NYC and synthesizing their influences).

if you want to hear the apex of 70s club disco proper, start with salsoul records. first choice, loleatta holloway, all of that stuff. if you like soul and funk, you owe it to yourself to dive into disco. the best of it is basically the perfect blend of the two.

Thanks. I'll check it all out. Never heard of saison or Holloway.
 

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Johnny Marr describes the inspirations behind The Smiths' "How Soon Is Now" including disco artist Bohannon and Bo Diddley.





Hamilton Bohannon is also name-dropped by The Tom Tom Club in "Genius of Love."


This is cool!
 

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Byrne always considered Talking Heads a dance band - heavily influenced by R&B, so it only makes sense that a band like that, from NYC in the '70s would assimilate disco.
Didn't he claim that the impetus for starting a band was because he liked K.C. and the Sunshine Band so much? I mean, listen to "Boogie Shoes" and imagine Dave singing. Not too far off the mark there...
 

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Listen to this for a classic rock-proto-disco crossover: David Bowie’s remake of his own The Man Who Sold The World as a hit for Lulu in 1974:

(It’s the Pinups album band playing on this, including Bowie sleazing up the intro with a new sax melody. But listen to the drums and bass.)
 

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Byrne always considered Talking Heads a dance band - heavily influenced by R&B, so it only makes sense that a band like that, from NYC in the '70s would assimilate disco.
At first that seemed surprising to learn, but thinking about it, it's Byrne, makes total sense.
 

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Johnny Marr describes the inspirations behind The Smiths' "How Soon Is Now" including disco artist Bohannon and Bo Diddley.





Hamilton Bohannon is also name-dropped by The Tom Tom Club in "Genius of Love."


Funny story (to me, anyhow). A few months ago I was in Sarajevo, Bosnia and at dinner one night (the food there is off the charts good), there was this older gentleman who had just come from prayers eating dinner by himself humming Genius of Love. I had to ask him about it, and I did but he looked up surprised this American tourist would interrupt his dinner and made gestures that he didn't speak English (or that I was being rude to approach him). It was probably a bit rude so I left him alone. He went on humming and whistling it for the rest of his dinner. Small, oddly interconnected world we live in.
 

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I hated disco when it first arrived on the scene. I was into the club thing, and I couldn’t adapt to those dances.

But, after seeing how the opposite sex took to the new music, I was forced to adapt. Later on, I grew to like most of it, including the Bee Gees and Donna Summer and those KC & The Sunshiners.

As far as disco influencing rock, this one comes to mind:

 
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