Dirty, rusty, greasy, depressing, junky-ass 'project bike'...

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  1. chris m.

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    They actually make some pretty high tech motorcycle covers these days for people in your situation, stratoman. Think of all those rich German men living in tiny apartments that want to pamper their Ducati or BMW or Aprilia out in the street during those long German winters.
     
  2. charlie chitlin

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    Stromberg or SU from a Brit car.
    That constant velocity/variable venturi thing works...provided there's only 1.
    If there are 2, even a set of mercury sticks won't save you.
     
  3. muchxs

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    Drove up above the snow line today. It's not spring yet, it's still mud season. Saw a V Rod in someone's yard that obviously sat out in the snow all winter.

    Lady down the street kept her Sporty outside all winter, ten paces from her barn door.

    I ought to drive around and take pics of all the bad ass machinery gettin' rained on. Saw a Pro Street '67 Camaro out in the woods. There must be $20k in the back and another $20k conservatively in the front. It has a four link, tubs and the biggest Hoosiers money can buy on the back. It all fits under the body like it should. It has a blower under a blue tarp up front.

    Dude has his garage packed full of crap so there it sits.

    That's the way I'd do it.

    :D :D :D
     
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    The other downside to outside besides the weather is that a two guys and a truck can make a bike disappear pretty quick
     
  5. John Backlund

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    Not so.

    This bike cost over $5000 as it sits, my replacement reproduction exhaust system alone for it was $1200+...on sale.

    The 1970's Suzuki GT750's are worth between $10,000 and $15,000 in restored condition, depending on the model year and the quality of the restoration work. These bikes are appreciating rapidly, and are in high demand in Japan, Australia, Germany, and the UK, and values are rapidly rising in the US too.

    They haven't caught the value rocket-ride of the 70's Kawasaki triple two-strokes, but have begun closing the gap on them. Restored Kawasaki H2 triples are bringing $15,000-$20,000, as are the early Z1 900's.
     
  6. chris m.

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    I had a nice GPZ550 for awhile— sold it cheap to a friend and got a 750 Nighthawk. It’s funny to me how much collectors will pay when a new bike can be better/faster/cheaper, but same goes for guitars, I guess. Collecting isn’t about practicality.
     
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    I'd only buy a bike like this if I were going to do a full frame-up restoration, but it sounds like you bought the Suzuki to clean up and flip. I've never bought any vehicle (or guitar!) with the intent of making money on it. I know it can be done but I'm too stuck on fixing things, removing any flaws of which I become aware. I'm doomed to buy and keep and take satisfaction in all of my purchases. I'd lose money on anything I sold!
     
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    Been there, done that... more than once... it's a disease I tell ya...

    Chased this one for a bunch of years until my buddy finally decided to sell
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    If you're gonna do it...
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    A few hours/dollars later...
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    Then there was this one, bought it in a package deal with no plans for what to do with it
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    But it kinda made an impression on me and before you know it, it was my main project
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    Ended up looking like this, which it turns out is a lot like a model Ducati made too. Who knew?
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    I've got a couple more stuffed in a corner but it's been a lot of years since I've worked on them.
     
  9. John Backlund

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    The only thing keeping me from having a total restoration done on it at this point is money, otherwise I definately would drop it at the door of a restoration specialist and just say 'call me when it's done.'

    For now, I'm going to do as much as I can, which is a lot, and get it back on the road in another month or so, start riding it, and keep making further piecemeal improvements as I can.

    The bike runs, and I rode it several hundred miles within two days after getting it home from Kansas City, then parked it and started working on it. Don't let the pretty picture below fool you, it's a mess close up. Right now, I have about $3000 in new parts for it stacked in a corner at our house, they'll start going on after it's major cleanup.
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    I bought it to fix up, keep, and ride, not sell it for a profit....which cannot be done anyway because of the amount I'll have in it by the time it's back on the road. This is one of those 'labor of love' things that will eventually have way too much money thrown at it if it was ever to be profitability flipped.

    If you want a nearly 'new' fourty-four year old motorcycle like the one you had almost five decades ago, you just have to put on the blinders and jump down that rabbit hole to get it.
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  10. John Backlund

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    This finally arrived today, it was supposed to be here almost three weeks ago, but the shipper sort of 'forgot' to get it on the damn truck. It will make a lot of tarnished old aluminum very shiny again...
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    Sometimes FREE just isn't cheap enough.
     
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    It's a shame that you can't do just that. From all the pictures I've seen, it appears to be an excellent prospect for restoration. It looks like it has all the factory fasteners, and was never butchered.
     
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    My first Moto Guzzi ('78 SP1000) was a "theft recovery". Aside from being dirty and banged up it was in pretty good shape mechanically (save a couple of known MG warts). I pulled it apart and carried frame parts, fork parts, etc to the base shop and sandblasted to bare metal. Lacking funds, I ended up rattlecanning it...red frame with red and black bodywork. I rode that thing well beyond my capabilities...thankfully it was rock solid. LOL...when I sold it, the guy that bought it later told me he'd spent hours and hours buffing the bodywork to get it to shine just a little bit---LOL, the red on it was engine enamel because I wanted it to last on the frame pieces :twisted:.

    My second MG (2001 V11 Rossi Mandello) was nearly new, but PO (who had Mickey Mouse painted on his helmet) was not mechanically inclined...that bike ran like a scorched cat and had scared the poo out of him. It turned out two things were wrong with it that contributed to a death shake in high speed turns (which he failed to mention, but was probably the source of his fears)...both front engine mount bolts were missing (the motor was integrated with the frame), and the steering dampener was cranked extremely tight (turns out that particular model bike was much better with the steering dampener set between no dampener and hummingbird feather). When I sold it, I packed up all my leathers and summer riding gear, and passed them to the new owner. I'd had enough near misses by cell phone users and near sighted distracted drivers...bought a convertible :cool:.
     
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    Nice bikes :cool:
     
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    Bizarre times we live in.
    But nobody ever thought Harley 45's would be worth anything either.
    10-15k for a 70s Suzuki?
    Anybody who pays that deserves to be relieved of their money.
    1200 for an exhaust, I can believe.
    I mean...I can believe someone charging that. It costs a LOT of money to tool up to make an exhaust. And how many could you possibly sell at that price? I just can't imagine paying it.
    This is why I got out of the motorcycle business. Too emotional. Nostalgia, romance, lost youth, unresolved issues...I just love to ride.
    I had about $1500 tied up in my '40 Knucklehead. Sold it for 19k about 10 years ago. Now the engine alone is probably worth that.
    Crazy.
    I just want to get some bugs in my teeth.
    I've got nothing to prove anymore.
     
  16. chris m.

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    Those restoration jobs are amazing. I don’t even have enough time to pursue other hobbies like guitar playing and bicycle riding what with work and family. I’m amazed by the amount of work it must take and I know I just wouldn’t have the time. So I would just go buy a lightly used modern bike and be done with it. Probably a thumper— my last bike was a souped up Suzuki DRZ400 and it was so fun- light, soaked up bumps, comfortable, didn’t care if it fell over, and was great on the freeway for short commutes under 20 miles.
     
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    We rarely have that problem around here. In Vermont, there is no such thing as "Grand Theft Auto". The charge is "Use Without Permission". It's use without permission 'cuz everyone leaves their keys in their vehicles. After all, if my car is locked the punks are going to steal my tractor.

    We have a pragmatic approach to motor vehicles. Titles "sunset" after fifteen years. That means no onerous legal issues when you scrap yer hoopdee and far less silly paperwork when it changes hands.

    There are members of our community who trade their summer motorcycle for a deer rifle in the fall. Trade their deer rifle for a snowmobile by Christmas. Trade their snowmobile for an ATV for mud season. And so on.


    My scooter was running especially well one day. Didn't realize a state trooper followed me up the interstate on ramp. Can't see anything behind me with those mirrors vibrating, anyway.

    Trooper was so impressed my bike was registered and insured and inspected, he let me go with a warning.

    :cool: :cool: :cool:
     
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    My '81 GPz750 that I bought last year, got it running within a week but then just stopped looking at it when other projects took up my time... Maybe this year.... FB_IMG_1585750273452.jpg
     
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    I would gladly pay 15g's for what is essentially a new mid-70's Suzuki GT750 if I had that much laying around. By the time this project has ended, I actually will have close to that amount into it, and I'm fine with that, because I will have a quite rare example of a great motorcycle from my earlier life that gave me immense pleasure.

    This bike is my 6th Suzuki GT750, my first one, shown in that fuzzy photo I posted above, ran 61,000 miles for me in the three years I owned it. The photo was taken while on a two-up road trip to the Carolinas from St. Paul, the long-gone girl is Sandy, we were together seven years.

    I want to hear that two-stroke triple underneath me again, and I want to smell that stinky exhaust when I fire it up cold in the morning. Sandy?...I can do without.

    Here's some of that reproduction full exhaust system waiting for it...
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    And the restored fuel tank/sidecover set..
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    And a few of the other new odds & ends waiting for installation...
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    That's gonna look great when you're done!

    The prospect of cleaning off "age dirt" can definitely dampen one's enthusiasm. In the long run, stripping it down to the frame might actually be less work, although we don't think so at the beginning.

    I usually have found that overcoming the reluctance to dive into an intimidating mechanical task is harder than the task itself, once I'm into it. That is, as long as I have the facilities and the tools.
     
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