director's cut / uncut movies

[johnny k]

It seems there is a reason why movies are cut the way they are cut, usually it is to keep the rhythm flowing. I watched re-animator extended but yesterday, and it seems to me that some scenes were reshoots. There are 2 guys talking in a living room, and then you can see one guy on a totally black background. It is weird.

Another movie was apocalypse now. There are 2 different cuts of it, one with the sargent cracking jokes, and one without. I saw the one with the jokes, and i thought it was a bit weird.

 

[Chester P Squier]

I have a similar opinion of "alternate takes" such as one sees on boxed sets. I've always thought there was a reason they were not put on the album. And a good reason.

Not to change to subject, the subject being movies.

 

[Boreas]

Now that movies are often 3+ hours, probably everything is a director's cut now. Hey, you pay actors by the job, not by the hour...

 

[Vibroluxer]

I used to own VHSs of all of the original Star Trek Series. They sucked because they told exactly what made them a directors cut: in the beginning of the movie to include spoilers

I stay away from them now.

 

[bumnote]

There need to be a good reason....I'm looking at someone in particular.

If there's a poster child for leave it the hell alone, it's George.

IMO he's the worst offender when it comes to director's cut. You can't see the original versions of the first three movies anymore, just Lucas' re-dos.
It's like The Beatles re-recording "Sgt. Pepper" because..."We always intended to have a Key-tar on but they hadn't been invented yet."

 

[bumnote]

Another movie was apocalypse now

This guy's done a very long, in-depth series of documentaries into the making of that a film that will explain a lot of why and how it's final form(s).
This one explains a lot of tone shift, dialogue, etc.

 

[Mjark]

Editing is important.

 

[ClashCityTele]

'Apocalypse Now' is my favourite film of all time, and there are actually 4 versions of it.
1 The theatrical release (2 hours 30 mins) 1979. This even has 2 versions. One with Kurtz's compound being bombed & one without.
2. The Redux version (3 hours 16 mins) 2001.
3. The Final Cut (3 hours 3 mins). Redux with the abandoned Playboy Bunny's scene removed. 2019.
4. And for real A.N. fanatics - The Workprint (5 hours 30 mins).

"Never get out of the boat. Never get out of the boat".

 

[Mike Eskimo]

Saw Apocalypse Now first run/first release in a really small/really crappy theater with my running buddy at the time .

We were 15/16

The devil’s cabbage came with us.

To say that movie made quite an impression on us knuckleheads is a vast understatement.

Any slightest inkling of joining the service after high school was obliterated that night.

Plus US had only been out 4-5 years at that point . It was still fresh .

I don’t know if we could have seen that extra long French dinner party* version or not.

Our brains could barely deal with the original theatrical release !

* Am I getting that right? I remember seeing it on TCM one time

 

[getbent]

I'm a saucier!

 

[badinfinities]

Alien 3 Director Cut is a vast improvement on the theatrical release.

 

[Texicaster]

I'm a sucker for directors cuts and deluxe expanded editions.

I think they've figured out you can darn near double your money by rereleasing an expanded directors cut a few years later, I think they do it on purpose now! As well and knowing the audience has attention limits. I rarely get through a 2 hour movie in one sitting anymore.

I found the Hobbit and LOTR directors cuts much better!

Welle's Touch Of Evil directors cut way better too!

 

[posttoastie]

I like the special features with "Alternative endings" that some DVDs have.
Examples of this are
-The Butterfly Effect
-Smokin' Aces

 

[Toto'sDad]

A movie should run 90 minutes including credits. Not 89, not 91, 90 minutes. Anything more than that should be tossed, leave out the beginning and ending if you have to but get it cut to 90 minutes.

If a director violates this protocol, he should be strapped to a gurney and made to watch YouTube shorts endlessly. Well, not until he dies, but until he's learned his lesson. (Whichever comes first)

 

[bumnote]

Anything more than that should be tossed, leave out the beginning and ending if you have to but get it cut to 90 minutes.

I've seen a lot of movies that end that way.
They didn't end, they just stopped being made.

 

[bumnote]

Welle's Touch Of Evil directors cut way better too!

Those are the types director's that I like. There's a reason why it's being released, not "because they can" marketing.

 

[FMA]

Welle's Touch Of Evil directors cut way better too!

Stopped by to say that. Welle's original vision was perfect. The studio edit detracted somewhat from the story and the tone. That said, it is a great movie.


As for Apocalypse Now, I still like the first version. There seemed to be a good reason why some of the scenes in Redux were cut from the first version. That said, I still think Apocalypse Now is a masterpiece and would have easily been Coppola's best film if it weren't for The Godfather and Godfather II. (Don't get me started on Godfather III.)

 

[johnny k]

A movie should run 90 minutes including credits. Not 89, not 91, 90 minutes. Anything more than that should be tossed, leave out the beginning and ending if you have to but get it cut to 90 minutes.

If a director violates this protocol, he should be strapped to a gurney and made to watch YouTube shorts endlessly. Well, not until he dies, but until he's learned his lesson. (Whichever comes first)

90 mns is the perfect lenght, to me.

 

[johnny k]

I've seen a lot of movies that end that way.
They didn't end, they just stopped being made.

I.E. holy grail

 

[CCK1]

A movie should run 90 minutes including credits. Not 89, not 91, 90 minutes. Anything more than that should be tossed, leave out the beginning and ending if you have to but get it cut to 90 minutes.

If a director violates this protocol, he should be strapped to a gurney and made to watch YouTube shorts endlessly. Well, not until he dies, but until he's learned his lesson. (Whichever comes first)

SO agree with you. I will rarely watch a movie filmed after about the early 70’s. If you can’t start, and end the plot in 90 minutes, something is wrong.