Direct Mount Pickups

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  1. CFFF

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    Is there a difference in sound when a pickup is directly screwed to the body or suspended by a pickguard?
     
  2. RadioFM74

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    I don’t think so, but I am curious what answers you’ll get
     
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    A lot of people believe so. I’ve never noticed on telecasters where I have had both direct and in the pick guard. The difference is too subtle for me.


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    Only if you believe in Tone Truss Rods.

    Mounting style will only change your tone if you have placed the top of the pickup closer or further from the strings with each test condition. An 1/8th of an inch height adjustment can mean quite a change.

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  5. Tone Specific

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    It depends on who you ask. The old Parker guitars had direct mount Humbuckers & a lot of people that played them thought it made a difference. The luthier Stephen Marchione makes few models with direct mounts and guys rave about the tone.
     
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    Also GE Smith would say it makes a huge difference.
     
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    I almost got sucked in to replying to this one. :cool:
     
  8. Zepfan

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    I think it would depend on the level of Microphonics in the pickup used.

    Most of the difference noted would probably be more noticeable in your practice area than in a stage area.
    If you notice it - it will matter. Lots of players would swear that it matters and some would say it's all in their heads and both would be right in most circumstances. Or is it that a lot of people just can't hear like others do? Maybe it's a bit of all 3.
     
  9. schmee

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    It would make sense that there is, but pretty minimal I think. What it is attached to matters as much as how. Attach a pickup to this and it's gonna sound very different than to a plank of wood.... until you reach a certain volume level, then all that starts to go away. Otherwise there would be no point in all these different guitars; Teles, Strats, LP's , acoustics...
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    Only when at concert levels,There is a point where you can tell, the whole word vibrates.
    Just Sayin.
     
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    Direct mounting makes them sound more woody.;)

    I like the idea of direct mounting them and I prefer the look when in a 50's style tele neck position. Seeing screws on a 50's tele neck pickup is weird looking imo.
     
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  12. Ricky D.

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    I'm a direct mount Tele neck guy, I don't like the look of screws on the pick guard.
     
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    Caribou GONE... ;)
     
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    I have a GE Smith Tele where both pups a screwed to the body and I must admit it makes a difference, especially with the bridge pup.
    The sound is less twangy (logic, it has no physical connexion to the bridge plate) and it has more bottom and punch.
    The GE Smith model has a small bridge plate so this also may have an impact...
     
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    Good point. The lack metal around the bridge pickup has an impact on the Tone of the GE Smith model.

    The necks on those GE Smith’s are as good as it gets.
     
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    This is the only undisputable reason to prefer a body mount over a pickguard mount … and it’s enough for me as well ;)
     
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    If you mean suspended on a string or surgical tubing screwed through the pickguard and mounted to the body, or suspended on a screw or surgical tube iscrewed into the body? I'd say no difference.

    Screwed into the body with no rubber mount vs suspended from springs or rubber, maybe.
     
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    As long as nothing is microphonic, I don't think it should matter either way. We're implying that a magnetic pickup is capable of behaving like a (non-magnetic) transducer for an acoustic instrument, which it simply is not (as long as it's not microphonic).
     
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    Besides tele neck pickups, Gretsches can come with either type of mount. Not that I care to or have any qualifications to comment on the sound.
     
  20. Ricky D.

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    You have coupling through the mounting screws whether the pickup is attached to the body or the pickguard.

    Two questions remain:

    1. Does the vibration of the pickup superimposed on the string's vibration make an audible difference?
    2. If #1 is yes, is there enough difference in the pickup vibration (body vs. pickguard mount) to be audible?

    I don't think it makes any difference at all, but I don't have bat's ears. If you hear it, then make the most of it.
     
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