Diff between '54 tweed Pro and Band Master?

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  1. charlie chitlin

    charlie chitlin Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    I can't read schematics or layouts in such a way that I could have a clue about what an amp sounds like...
    I just saw this amazing Band Master.
    A 5U4G, a couple 6L6s...transitional model with 6SC7 crossed out on the tube chart and 12AX7 written in.
    15" speaker.
    All the same as my Pro.
    Funny that Fender even sold these models at the same time.
    Anybody know the difference?
     
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    If memory serves, the tweed Pro, Super, and Bandmaster were essentially the same amplifier with different speaker configurations. The Bandmaster also has a different output transformer (difference impedance) to accommodate its unusual 3 speaker layout.
     
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    The earlier Bandmaster is a 1x15.
    The 3x10 must be a killer.
     
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    Well I guess you learn something new every day! I didn’t know a 1x15” Bandmaster existed.

    Here’s what the 3x10” sounds like with a Gretsch:



    Killer indeed.
     
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    Charlie, the early Bandmaster schematics are non-existent. What is the entire tube complement? If there is a 6J5, the circuit has some similarities to the Twin of that day. If it has two 6SC7s or 12AX7s, it is more like the Pro of that time.
    What year is the amp? Serial number? Speaker date? Details, details, details.....
     
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    I think Fender may have been selling a 1x15 Bassman, BandMaster and Pro, all at the same time.
     
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    Who’s Next.....great album.
     
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    bandmaster4.jpg Bandmaster3.jpg Bandmaster2.jpg Bandmaster1.jpg Bandmaster5.jpg

    It's a beauty, but I have a '54 Pro, and I can't afford redundancy.
    I'm really on the lookout for a TV Pro or wide panel Deluxe.
     
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    Nice amp....it is a 1954 and probably is very much the same as your 5D5 Pro. I have owned a number of tweed Pros....5B5, 5C5, 5E5A. The last one was a 5B5 with octal preamps....everything on the board had to be replaced. When the resurrection was complete, it was a magnificent amp. I have been around Deluxes...wide panel Included. I would take that 5B5 over any of them.
     
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    I'm liking the idea of a giggable amp with octal preamps.
    TV Deluxe can't cut it.
     
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    My understanding is that the Bandmaster was one of the first amps to get the bass and treble knobs to replace the one tone knob. I bet that is one great sounding amp.
    Thanks John
     
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    NO BASS AND TREBLE N MY 54. TONE ONLY
     
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