Did The Beatles kill Rock and Roll?

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  1. omahaaudio

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    They took rock-n-roll very mainstream. Other artists at the same time and before were also doing this; the Beatles just did it REAL BIG.

    Whether that is good or bad is a matter of opinion. I think good things came from it, and the '50s sound was already waning anyhow. Bad things came from it too – rock-n-roll getting too big for its britches, crap "adult oriented" rock music in the '70s, every blockhead in existence owning a guitar, the music industry getting too big/rich/powerful.

    Rock-n-roll was no longer a subculture by the time the Beatles were through. Everybody knew about it, and was exposed to it, whether they liked it or not. It became normalized over the decades, and the Beatles were a huge part of that process. They showed businesspeople that you could get REALLY RICH selling rock-n-roll, so why not just let it be accepted as a normal part of American life.

    But in terms of the music itself (all I really care about), I don't think they killed rock-n-roll. They evolved it, and some really great music came from that evolution during the '60s. I'm not much of a fan of where it went after that (though punk and post punk offered a brief reprieve).
     
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    Maybe. Even probably.
    Not very much.
    In a few good ways, yes and in a few bad ways, most definitely.
     
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    What I really meant was, did they make all those originators obsolete in about a minute, or was it more incremental than I'm aware of.
     
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    No, I don't think so.

    They may have made life more difficult for the "lesser" individuals in that genre, but there were radio stations enough for the Big Stars like Sinatra, enough for country and western, enough for rhythm and blues, enough for gospel, and so the only groups that got cast aside were marginal players in the hit parade. All through the early Beatles, there were still people listening to Jackie Gleason and Al Hirt and Ray Charles and Pat Boone and Andy Williams and Pete Fountain. A lot of people kept selling records - it was just a great time to have a recording contract.
     
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    There’s always underground anything you know, and in many underground circles it’s about focusing on the art and creative aspects of their craft. Producers can be stars just as well nowadays and the lowly DJ is now respected as a musician (yeah I can hear the silent hiss from you all), the technical people, can rise up and do something that hasn’t been done before, with hip hop and electronic music breaking down structures, walls, and paradigms.

    But yeah, rock n roll never died, never will. We can rehash it for eternity, and yet there will be some guy saying “The Beatles did it first”:rolleyes:

    What are people complaining about?:lol:
     
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    That woman is an artistic genius with a pretty tragic life story, with johns background it’s pretty easy to see why he liked her so much. People argue that Linda broke up the band as well, but in reality I think they collapsed under the weight of what they became. It had to be stressful.

    Great band!! I say them at this tiny bar we used to play at right before that album hit. Great show!!
     
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    Respect, including the Yoko comment.

    I play the blue Toronto record of hers sometimes, it’s the rare moment I’ll enjoy Clapton, “Don’t worry....”

    Apparently many people haven’t heard pow-wow music or throat singing. No worries, though. Doesn’t work for pop music, and that’s ok with me :)
     
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    No. Next question.
     
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    No.
     
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    It collapsed under it's own weight and things got so bad the world turned to boy and girl bands.
     
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    I have no idea, I wasn't born until the end of '69.

    Is this the same argument as did Nirvana kill the men in girls leggings hair rock?
     
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    No. They arguably saved it.
     
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    This is a very stupid and ignorant response, but it is typical considering the source.
     
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    The originators of Rock 'n Roll were already has-beens by early 1964, The Beatles just stepped in to fill a void.
     
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