Did The Beatles kill Rock and Roll?

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  1. uriah1

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    Different strokes for different folks. The beatles were a tad pretty and frilly.
    I had a ringo wig and some beatle buttons and then medallions and belt buckles.
    I switched to the kinks and stones..
    and then..................

    I tended to like the Mitch Ryder kind of stuff. Soul and rock.
     
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    I think rock and roll just died of old age.
    Now it’s just played by zombies.
     
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    And blues is played by period re-enactment types.
    Like those guys who get together and re-enact the Civil War
     
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    Hey Charlie.....I have not read all the responses..
    Yes...I saw the Ed Sullivan shows too.
    Seems to me those shows were just before I joined the service in 1965.

    My take: No...I don't see them as 'killing rock and roll'.
    As I've never viewed them as a RnR band.
    I perceived them as the most inventive/original pop band at the time.
    I tend to like Revolver, Rubber Soul better than the double white album.

    Even though I've had the Beatles complete song book for decades and like many of their songs they are not cover songs that I aim to learn.
    Too much love sap that just doesn't interest me.
    But...they were prolific writers, popular entertainers and crossed a threshold of pop music at the time.
    Their influence in music was quite profound.

    But....that's just me.

    Be smart/stay safe.
     
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    Since I'm bored this morning...

    You didn't get out much in the 80's, did you?

    Just like most successful guys I knew did in their '20s.

    Others mentioned. And I mention the Brill Building here.

    It was. It was also the start of the decline of what is now called 'Beautiful Music', which itself was the dregs of big band music, in part, and watered down considerably.

    I was born in 1962 and just got done spawning relatively recently.

    I try to, but then I'm from the classical tradition.

    Musical wasn't about that. But Uneasy Rider was.

    The Zombies gave it up, too.
     
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    the Fender bass is also a suspect
     
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    This was actually mentioned earlier, but it bears repeating
     
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    The Fender bass allowed guitar players to believe they are bassist.
    (But that’s a deep rabbit hole too.”
     
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    So, to “play along”, IF the Beatles killed rock and roll, who buried it?
    Or is it just laying there stinkin’ up the place?
    Was it so long ago that it’s all dried up and blown away?
    Enquiring minds want to know.
     
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    Some of the guys I played with who would be around 78 years old now, didn't like the Beatles at all. They liked Elvis and some of the other 50's and real early 60's singers. I grew up with the Beatles music and loved it. Still do. Then there were guys I played with who are around 50-55 now. They didn't like the Beatles and thought they were cheesy. So I am glad I was around when they were just coming out. No they didn't kill rock. They improved on it and kept it going, while selling millions of guitars.
     
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    I have a very similar story.
    I played,and still play with some guys of the Elvis generation.
    Those guys feel about the Beatles like I feel about rappers and metal-heads.
    Further proof that every generation “drags” the music they love along with them as they age.
    I do try not to be a bore though.
    I know no one cares what I think.
    I also know I don’t care (much) what anyone else thinks.
     
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    There must be a more relevant and comparable question to this one, such as "what most recently killed rock music" or "currently made rock music less popular" there's still lots of indie rock bands out there going right now, a lot of it's almost too heavy and angry though. It's like all their record companies forced them to play that way and I don't wholly agree.

    Like rock music is inherently this conservative old fashioned thing now? I don't know if I agree with that but if you look about it many forms of music have sort of been absorbed by the genre and somehow at least partially fill the rock genre somewhat. It's not just like "blues" or "folk" it's "folk rock" "rock blues" it seems like.

    I don't know what happened recently I think people have become more asleep, and have fallen for what the large corporations and big businesses and multi-media want them to believe among other things and would prefer cheap and easy diversions to problems then answers or solutions. I guess since video games are so much more popular, people literally escape life altogether and live in virtual fantasy world's which has become quite common I guess.

    I really like fighting games and tried getting into Smash Bros competitively but I realized that the time needed to become skilled enough for this was equivalent to learning an instrument or new skills in general and it's true for a lot of video games these days, you also see a lot more female artists and musicians these days, it's almost gone back to art and creative forms of expressions not really being considered legitimate pursuits for men anymore.

    It's not a good time for art anymore basically I guess, I don't know, I don't know again if art is somehow shunned upon in consider societies, I don't think so that's a pretty limited scope of imagination I think. We're all supposed to just slavishly toil and drudge away to keep the gross national product and federal reserve sufficiently content or something and our lives exist for nothing else *sigh*
     
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    a lot of you guys keep missing the point though. The question was not about "rock" music
     
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    Yeah, ok buddy... ;)

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    It was clear from the question, but it would probably have helped if the title had said 50’s rock and roll.
     
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    All rock n roll is 50s music
     
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    Music just keeps evolving, and as an older guy who has played a lot of old R&R and Beatles in bands, I dig the music, but I'm over playing it after all these years.
     
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    Must've heard wrong. I thought the Odessey And Oracle tour was to be a farewell.
     
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