Diabetics that eat junk food - wth?

[bottlenecker]

That’s more joyless ********.

Eat food you like, then hit the gym. Hit it really god damn hard if you have to.

I did, and now I have two bad rotator cuffs, tennis elbow, and something going on with my knee. I should've been hitting it a little softer, because now I can't hit it hard.

 

[IMMusicRulz]

My grandmother was a diabetic and ate nothing but cakes, pies, drank soda etc. She eventually had to stop after having a heart attack a few years ago.

 

[Kev-wilson]

I've been type 1 for hundreds of years, or so it seems.
Actually, I was diagnosed in 1972. Still a long time.
I've distilled the gist of proper diabetic self care to having a monkey.
I don't have a monkey yet but I will check Amazon later.
No doubt I can get a good deal on a monkey, or maybe two would be better. Oooooh.


Mark

I hope the Josling institute are giving you the gold medal for those 50 years!

It'd have been a lot harder in the 70's I'd imagine as those pork insulins were harsh and the old BM sticks a right pain in the finger

Folk in the UK regularly 'diss' our NHS but for us with T1 it's a pretty good outfit, 2018 the Libre was made available to some on prescription and now all T1D's can have one, and recently the Dexcom One has been added to the list. Clinic offered me a 'closed loop' pump back in June but I declined.

I've used my Libre alongside Nightscout (which sadly stops being free today ) to give clinic these stats, sadly clinic doesn't use NS but hey

Refreshing to see other T1's on here!

 

[Timbresmith1]

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Weird stuff in most of the food supply, like high fructose corn syrup, and the tendency to swap out fats ("Low Fat!") and replace with sugars. Sugar content is frequently split up into three or four different types on the ingredients list. I saw a sugar cereal with a big banner "whole grain first on ingredients list!" but if you read the panel it went: grain, sugar 1, sugar 2, something, something, sugar 3, sugar 4, and then the rest of the stuff. It's a shell game of how to hide the sugar.

I was at an away high school sporting tournament that had taken old school year book candid pictures of the kids and made murals out of them. They happened to organize the pictures by year. It was very remarkable by many of the visiting parents that right around 1984 the kids started gaining weight, accelerating with time.

1984 was right around the time that High Fructose Corn Syrup was introduced in 'New Coke'. Now it's a challenge to find cane sugar in soft drinks, but HFCS is used in many other products and is nearly impossible to escape.





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I have no idea what this means.

His name is “Blowtorch”. What do blowtorches do?

 

[Mike Eskimo]

I have to say again, not all drinking is bad. Man, when my wife and I both drank, an evening out was a lot more fun. She quit drinking a long time before I did. Many pleasant winter evenings, memories of having a nice "wood" fire going in the fireplace, her having some wine, me drinking whiskey. I thought it can't get much better than this. It's too bad that those days can't just go on, and on without consequence.

Oh believe me - I’ll never have a problem with alcohol (because then I’d be my dad) and - I’ll never stop drinking .

Had some Beam Black last night .

Not great but then, I’m not either so we’re even !

 

[scottser]

I don't believe in stereotypes

That's such a 'blowtorch' thing to say.

 

[Lonn]

No different than people with lungs that smoke or vape. Idiocy.

 

[1293]

White rice is, as is pasta. Brown rice is better for you, and pasta can be ok as well if double cooked - IE boil it, let it cool, then cook it again to eat

More on that here https://www.medicaldaily.com/health...hanges-starch-quality-cut-calories-fat-307300

Brown rice is just as bad. If it isn't fat or protein, it's sugar.

 

[Charlie Bernstein]

For a lot of these folks, these patterns are how they got the diabetes in the first place.

It is not easy to change patterns, or there'd be a lot less fat people, lazy people, alcoholics, junkies, smokers, abusers, liars, cheaters...and diabetics slowly killing themselves

All true. And here's a friendly addition:

Marketers are geniuses at manipulating us into doing things. Clickbait keeps us online for more hours than could possibly be good for us. Commercials hammer products into our heads. Supermarket merchandising makes it almost impossible to shop rationally.

One example: Look at all the cold breakfast cereals and count how many have no sweetener or preservatives. At my supermarket, all I've found is Grape Nuts.

Why do supermarkets have so few healthy bcerials? Because sugar plus advertising equals consumers who want sweet cereal.

So let's blame ourselves, but let's not only blame ourselves.

 

[blowtorch]

So let's blame ourselves, but let's not only blame ourselves.

I think people perhaps best focus on that which is actually within their own control, which of course includes their own behavior.

There will always be all kinds of outside influences that one have absolutely no control over; how one reacts to those things is indeed within one's control

 

[LOSTVENTURE]

It's all about portion size. Control that and eat what you want, pretty much.

 

[Hammerhead]

I'm a type one diabetic, recently 'celebrated' 38 years of it, I'm 6 foot and just under 14 stone and eat around 175g carbs every day (6 or 7 injections), porridge for breakfast and brown rice most days tho rarely pasta, odd kebab, fish and chips and a good few tandooris on a weekend, tho naan bread doesn't like me, my hba1c is 40, time in range over 90 days 86% (4.1 - 9.1mmols) it was at 87% but a few days in Amsterdam saw me drop a point from eating junk food as munchies

I've always been reasonably switched on with it as you can turn into a clown if the bloods drop but the last few years I've had a script for a device worn on the arm with a sensor under the skin monitoring my blood glucose levels and it certainly shows foods that are high in sugars and/or fats (fat delays sugar digestion) and maccy dees, wraps, naan breads, white rice for me are bad ideas

The confusion between the types does frustrate me QUITE A BIT

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This is all similar to me, including a few days in Amsterdam recently (to see Jason Isbell, excellent) but no munchies for me! (No judgement, just not my thing.)

Naan is my kryptonite as well. It doesn’t seem to matter what I do, end up running high for ages after.

 

[Hammerhead]

Stress and depression have long been thought to be contributing factors to developing diabetes.
I never had any diabetic symptoms until shortly after my divorce process. I was suffering plenty from stress and depression at that point

Can you please do some research into the difference between Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes before you post any more of your dangerous misinformation.

 

[Dostradamas]

Humans, the cause and solution to everything.

 

[HootOwlDude]

Unfortunately I know alot of diabetics... and only one guy I know has taken the steps to improve his diet. The rest keep on eating sugar cereals, deserts, breads, pastas, candy... and then they shoot the insulin.

I don't get it... I don't... Why do these people continue to kill themselves with foods that are clearly harmful to their health?

A Low-Glycemic Diet is CRITICAL for diabetics... but no, they'd rather shoot the insulin.

I don't get it...

I hear ya. I have type 2 and take my FARXIGA every day. My 14 year-old daughter is type 1, and boy that is a challenge. She demonstrates some of the behavior you have mentioned. But she is also 14. We try our best with her and she does well for the most part, but she’ll have to learn to do better. All we can do is plug away at it. I myself am not prescribed insulin, but might be down the road—who knows? I have lost around 30 pounds and kept it off since my diagnoses, mostly attributable to my being more mindful of my carb intake. But you gotta remember that diabetics need carbs like everyone else, and for many insulin injections are the only way to do that. Even a type 1 person doing everything right HAS to take A LOT of insulin injections compared to anyone with a fully functioning pancreas. And diabetics gotta live, too. As long as it is moderated, and one stays mindful of not being too habitual about it, everybody needs a cup of ice cream now and then. This life is our only chance. Have your ice cream. Enjoy. And also: thank god for modern medicine. Without it, the reality of my daughter’s unfortunate diagnosis would be a certain death sentence rather than a lifelong inconvenience.

 

[blowtorch]

Can you please do some research into the difference between Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes before you post any more of your dangerous misinformation.

I know the difference between type 1 and type 2 diabetes.
And I've posted zero misinformation.
Thanks though

 

[Dostradamas]

 

[Milspec]

It is a fair question, but I have no answers except to say that food is a source of pleasure and some people crave it no matter what the destruction may be to themselves.

I was called a few years ago to do a clean out of a lakeside cabin where their relative died. When I unlocked the door, I was shocked. The man was a diabetic, the entire living room was covered 2 feet deep in empty soda bottles, candy wrappers, and used syringes. There was even a dog still living there half buried in the debris that nobody noticed.

The guy was recently retired, sold his primary residence, purchased this cabin and a new sports car. He was going to live out his life being happy on the lake, but only managed to kill himself in 2 years time.

There is no way he wasn't aware of just how bad things had become when you had to walk over piles of trash just to reach the bathroom. Why he made those decisions is beyond my comprehension.

The other side of the coin was my Father. He was diabetic (among a slew of other issues), but my Mother controlled his diet appropriately. He still made mistakes, but that was because he really didn't understand food very well. He used to do McDonald's runs to get a fish sandwich believing that he could eat all the fish that he wanted. Really didn't understand the whole deep fat frying aspect.

If not for my Mother, he would have died decades sooner. I think that is the problem with many people who are diagnosed diabetic....they really don't understand what they are eating.

 

[buster poser]

Brown rice is just as bad. If it isn't fat or protein, it's sugar.

Not true, glycemic index is a thing.

 

[Kev-wilson]

My current lancet has seen a queen, a new king and 3 prime ministers so this thread's reminded me to change it