Defil Kosmos Redux

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  1. ME262

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    Before throwing myself into Kahler routing, I drilled the hole for the customary Fender output jack.

    This is where jacks go on V shaped guitars, ok Gibson?
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    Then, off with the last remnants of the commie burst.

    Lets sand!
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    10 hours later...
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    Ok, let's use the stripper instead...
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    20min later.
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    Well, there was actually a reason why I didn't want to use the stripper first, I thought I may melt the bondo I have all around the guitar. But hey, you try sanding a commie burst for a while and then see if you too decide to risk it!

    Anyway, not much happened to it so that went ok.
     
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    Those with a keen eye may note that in the last pic, one can see the control plate outline miraculously routed in. They may also note that it looks like a suspiciously professional job for a clown like me. Well, that's because it IS a professional job. I got a sudden, and unusual, realization as to where my talent ends and had a friend who's a carpenter route it. I figured if I messed that part up, which was likely, it would be firewood time for the Kosmos..

    Rule 1: Just do it!
    Rule 2: Know your limits...

    To spice this post up a bit visually, here's a pic of another routing template, made from an Ikea plastic cutting board.

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    The Kahler Incident

    For all of you that feel this thread has been somewhat lacking in comedy lately, here's what happened next.

    So, I decided to put a Kahler in there instead of the GFS trem I had originally planned. This of course involved some routing. Piece of cake, I had the template and already did it on the Flying D, so what could go wrong?

    Well...

    First, some positioning, easy enough.
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    Then, some drilling and routing.
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    There we are, perfect!
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    Or is it?
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    Yes, I managed to route into the control cavity and thus made a nice little hole one can look through...
     
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    Speedholes. It's fine, there's gonna be a bridge on one side and a cover on the other side.
     
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    Meh, lots of "SuperStrats" had similar holes thru them like this. As long as the trem is anchored in wood, you're golden.

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    Well spotted my friends! And that is exactly what the next chapter of this sordid tale is about. Hint: it's not pretty...



    to be continued.
     
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    Right, where were we? Oh yes, just like the fellows above spotted, a s long as I can anchor the trem I'll be fine. Well...

    The posts go here
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    and sure enough, if I drill there, there's nothing to anchor the trem with, or more to the point; the posts.
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    The post would come out right here in that curved area, so I need romething round to glue in there
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    Something like... Hullo! What have we here?
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    Before addressing that problem though, I thought I'd glue up the holes I so carefully measured and made for the bridge posts. The posts for the Kahler are much smaller and I'll just drill into these later.

    Goodbye holes
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    Sometimes it pays off being a klutz because doing a little test fitting I notice the route for the Kahler is too far back, as luck would have it. That means I can move it forward and plug parts of the hole I made into the control cavity.

    Fail...
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    This will do nicely
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    Here we go
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    And finally, broom goes the handle!
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    That will give me something to drill post holes into.
     
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    There they are, and that looks great.
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    A handy tip for removing them is this Heinz chili sauce bottle cap, and a piece of wood that you drill a hole through.

    like such
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    and such
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    That bottle cap thing is genious, much better than the hammer claw/scrap wood thing.

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    I know that you have already chosen the colour scheme but this guitar is screaming out for Pelham Blue.......
     
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    Thanks for the kind words on the bottle cap, I'm not sure I'm the first or only one that came up with this, but if it is, it's my only original invention. The rest I learned on this great site. A few words of caution though, if you plan to do it on a finished guitar, put some of those stick on felt things you put under furniture legs under it to prevent damage to the guitar. Also, I use the original post screws because they are imperial and I'm on the metric system. If you have access to other imperial screws, then just counter screw two nuts against each other on one to make a stop above the bottle cap. This will prevent damage to the post screw.

    As for the color (and isn't that a handsome new pic I see as an avatar?) preliminary tests show that me + rattle cans + burst = Fail. So we'll see...
     
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    I still think you should © "Commie Burst".
    And I'm enough of a child of the 80's to say odd pointy shape + locking tremolo =WILD GRAPHICS!!!
    Or maybe just Tuxedo Black, white binding and zebra coiled pickups.
     
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    Or, wouldn't it be hilarious to, after all this trouble, just give it a new Commie Burst™?
     
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    Would "silverburst" count?
     
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    If there was a Shyteburst Cold War, then the silverburst would definitely be the western answer to the Commie Burst™.
     
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    Pisstaker alert! ;-)
     
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    Not at all, My Aim Is True and clearly you are This Year's Model.

    Get Happy!!

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    Time then for some more hardware tests. I put everything on to check that it lines up.

    The front looks good!
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    The back looks good!
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    Great, then I can get on with it. But wait!! (again)

    What's this then?
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    Yes, one should never scrutinize things too closely, that always ruins things. A car, a good story or a woman - all better left unscrutinized. This now proves to be true for guitars as well. I seem to have routed the bridge cavity too high at the top. Time for another fix then. (again)
     
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    Out of curiosity and apologies for my ignorance, but does paint take to MDF?
     
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