death metal lead

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  1. johnny k

    johnny k Poster Extraordinaire

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    I once posted a similar post, wondering what was the technique behind those wacky leads.
    I am still looking for clues.

    I read a bit of everything really. Minor scales might work, diminished as well.
    So, i find the general tonality and play the corresponding scale ?
    Playing those weird licks is an art !
     
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    need to hear a specific solo to answer that.
     
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    I am no expert on metal
    but I think having a quick pick hand would help.
     
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    Lots and lots of tremolo picking. And when you think you have it down, double it.
     
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    There are so many different types and subgenres of death metal that it's impossible to say that one particular thing makes a definitive death metal lead. A guitarist in a 90's NYC death band would give you a different answer then someone who plays in a tech death band or a death doom band for example.
     
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    I'm guessing diminished scales are the key to it all. They always sound creepy.
     
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    this one is a bit of a caricature, but you get the idea of the wonky stuff.
     
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    Let's say old school death metal, morbid angel, cannibal corpse....
     
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    that's funny. ok so

    1) use way too much distortion
    2) know your modes. in this case C Aeolian
    3) practice pattern through the modes (3 note, 4 note melodic patterns, etc)
    4) lots of double picking (up down strokes)
    5) lots of little bending of the notes slightly out of tune (guess easiest with 8 or 9 gauge string set).
     
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    I never play plugged, so unplugged will have to do. And now i know what i have got to work on. thanks.
     
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    I played with a locally established death metal band once (for a month or so). I played random sloppy **** for solos because that's what I heard in that music. They liked it. It got boring real fast, and I bailed.
     
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    ok so years ago i had a student come to me. his band was recording a record and when it came time to lay down the solos they called in another guitarist to do it. the guy was distraught over this and wanted to know what he had done wrong. he came for a lesson.

    so i played a chord progression and told him to solo over it. he started playing really fast and flashy random stuff all over the neck and i stopped and asked him what key he was playing in. he said "key? what do you mean?"

    so yeah, if you wanna make a record you have to understand harmony a little bit, no matter what kind of band you're in.
     
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    The guys in slayer are famous for being all over the place and not really caring about keys.

    It starts at 3'35.

    Edit Or there might be a method to their sonic chaos that i don't grasp, and that is the kind of thing i would like to understand.
     
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    it says video is unavailable. what song is it? i'll try to find it.
     
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    angel if death by slayer.
     
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    ok basically, tune down half step use lots of distortion and in between a good amount of whammy bar wankery play licks from zeppelin's "Good Times Bad Times." 12th fret E minor pentatonic in 3 note patterns.

    The Zeppelin tune will be easier to hear and learn.
     
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    chromatics, baby!

    Faster the tune, the wilder you can get. Think of overall tonality, but feel free to get outside of it...if you get back in seamlessly, it sounds great. Think of an overall shape to the solo...
     
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    Alright. It will probably take some time to get there, but i 've got my eyes on the prize...
     
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    The secret to Kerry King's general soloing approach.



    Just add lots of picking and tremolo bar action.
     
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    I know, not very helpful, but you know, don't over think it :)
     
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