Date confusion/question MIM Classic Series 50's Tele

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  1. jsalvaggio

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    The serial number on the head stock according to Fender dates from 2003, but the neck pocket on the body has a red ink date stamp from 2011 and the notorious F.P.S. stamp.

    Did I get a parts-caster?

    Also, the "white blonde" finish is more like butterscotch (and came with a black guard).

    Guitar plays great, and more importantly looks great.

    I'll send pics later tonight.
     
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    The pics you'll post later will definitely help. And did you use the Fender serial lookup on their site?
     
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    Thanks TelePlank, I used the online serial number lookup and sent an email to Fender Customer Relations - same results.

    Pics attached. IMG_0538.jpg IMG_0537.jpg IMG_0542.jpg IMG_0541.jpg IMG_0543.jpg IMG_0544.jpg
     
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    That really does look like BSB and not white blonde. The control plate is flipped so it might be a body from one of those special runs Fender did with a 2003/04 Classic Series neck. That's if the wiring is stock of course. Just my guess I'm not an expert though so maybe someone could give you a better answer.
     
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    The prior owner said he installed a twisted neck p/u and a broadcaster bridge p/u, and flipped the control plate at the same time.

    The color is definitely throwing me off.
     
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    Yeah all I can say is that's definitely not white blonde.
     
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    Yep, you got a (very pretty) partscaster. While there's no mistaking the early Classic Series '50s Tele neck (check that logo!), that body is likely either a (50s) Baja or BSB FSR Tele (the one that had ceramic pickups and the reversed control plate).

    Whatever it is, I like it! I love a 2-piece, centre-seam ash body.
     
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    The reverse plate FSR BSB from 2011 had an 8 screw b/w/b pickguard. If that was that body it would have the extra screw holes for the original pickguard. Then you'd know for sure.

    But...I also thought that that FSR had the more modern raised ferrules in the back.

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    Thanks the body only has 5 holes for the guard, so I'm thinking more and more that this body is possible a Baja series or a very discolored white blonde Classic series?
     
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    I have never seen a poly white Blonde turn that color, that's "Butterscotch".
    I have a 1971 poly white Blonde and it is still much whiter than that after 50 years.
     
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    It's a Baja.
     
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    Both the Baja and the FSR have brass saddles, and the plate is stamped Fender.
     
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    Did Bajas get FRS stamped in the neck pocket? I think that's what's throwing people off.

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    The serial # pulls up Classic Series '50s Telecaster on the Fender site though. Shows it in white blonde too.
     
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    The serial number on the headstock does indicate that the neck is from a Classic Series '50s Telecaster. Body obviously is not. As above, probably from a Baja Tele. So yes, a partscaster, but a pretty desirable one.
     
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    Thanks everyone, I love this site.
     
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    I agree and for a good price it'd be a good score. I just wanted to make sure the OP didn't think it was just a Baja from the person I quoted. Now I have to lay in bed at night wondering what the story is about how the neck and body came together.
     
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    That's an easy one - lots of people liked the Baja, but not everyone could get along with the chunky neck. So often folks kept the body, with those great pickups and S1 switch and simply bolted another MIM neck on there.
     
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    I meant it's a Baja body. As everyone has said it's a nice partscaster.
     
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    Thanks again, sure wish I had the original Baja neck the Classic neck is not big enough lol.
     
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