CS Nocaster 2014 - question

Discussion in 'Fender Custom Shop Tele Forum' started by Groberts, Apr 7, 2014.

  1. Groberts

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    I found a 2014 CS Nocaster that I've been flirting with at my local shop. Nocaster blond, 6105's and 9.5" Radius. Nocaster PU's. Nocaster U shaped neck. Sounds classic and nails vintage tone that sure is convincing.

    One thing that struck me odd is that while my local shop confirmed it is a CS '51 Nocaster in spec, the Decal on the headstock says Fender "telecaster" (old scrip logo of course.) But a Nocaster should only say Fender On the headstock shouldn't it?

    Second thing is the Body is a little wider than the neck. The neck is seated well in the pocket on the bass side, but on the treble side, the neck pocket/body sticks out about 1/8" wider than the actual neck. Is this normal and typical of Nocasters? No other CS Tele's that I've seen are like this.
     
  2. Ron Garson

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    You could always check with Fender at consumerrelation@fender.com by sending them the serial number, and they would confirm what it is. Maybe a special order. The Nocaster's last run was 2012, I think.
    If it says Telecaster on the headstock, it should really be a Tele, not a Nocaster, even if the specs are Nocaster.

    The ledge on the side of the neck pocket is period correct for the early Broadcaster/ Esquire/ Nocaster/ Telecaster models.
     
  3. Joe_Tone

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    I'd pull that neck and see if you can date it and see if it's truly a Fender neck. I'm not sure about production dates but read that they discontinued the nocaster again in early 2013. :confused: Is there a cert? Does it match the plate SN?
     
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    Maybe a Nocaster that had the neck changed.
    Maybe nothing from any part of a Nocaster.
    Could be a CS 52 or 53.

    It's new from 2014 (why are you sure of that?), so even if previously owned it shoud have the Certificate with it.
    That would tell you what it was.
    If Fender doesn't confirm what it is or it doesn't have the COA, I'd pass.
     
  5. Groberts

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    Checked the COA. December 2013. Shop just put it out in 2014. It is from my highly reputable, Fender Custom Shop Dealer. They got it straight from Fender. It's brand new. Case candy, cert, hang tag SN match the Bridge. But curiously the hang tag also - 52 at the end. I wonder ....were there any Nocasters that made their way into 1952 and got the Fender Telecaster decal?

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    The only reason they were called Nocasters is because the didn't have a name on them. So no, if it says Telecaster, it's not a Nocaster.

    Does the number on the Certificate match the number on the bridgeplate?
    If not then they just got the wrong Certificate with it.
    If the numbers match then someone at Fender messed up and filled the Certificate out as a Nocaster when it's really a Custom Shop 52 relic.
     
  7. Groberts

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    Have to agree. The SN on the bridge plate matches the COA. They labelled it a Nocaster and it can't possibly be if it says "Telecaster" on the headstock.

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    More likely they just dipped into the wrong transfer box. Specced it to specs against the Serial Number.

    CoA made against Serial Number Spec sheet.

    Inspected for quality and finish, not against Specs and Authenticity.

    COuple of easy process disconnects et .... .Voila!
     
  9. Groberts

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    The guitar is new at a local shop. I wonder if this Authorized Fender Dealer can get a correct CoA reflecting it is not a Nocaster Relic. But perhaps a '51 or 52' Telecaster Relic?
     
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    Yep I saw that too, the advertised Sweetwater "nocaster" has a Telecaster decal. Maybe the Fender customshop ran out of 'Nocaster" decals :oops:
     
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    Yeah, I checked that out. Looks like it came from the same Factory Run. Even the sticker at $3520 is the same.

    I sent an inquiry to Fender. Will see if they have a response.
     
  13. Joe_Tone

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    It's good to know though .... that your nocaster is actually a real nocaster and not something slapped together by someone else.
     
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    Yeah, it's a legit Custom Shop Fender all right. If the decal just said Fender on the headstock, everything else makes sense and adds up. Otherwise, is it a 1951 Telecaster ...with Nocaster neck, PU's and color?
     
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    If I had it I might just cut the telecaster off the headstock and call it a Nocaster.
     
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    I spent a few hours tonight with a friend who owns a Nocaster Reissue from 2010. My God, this guitar is GOOD!! Stunning, classic, vintage tones. VERY inspiring. Decal / CoA aside, its a GREAT guitar. Wondering why it took so long to discover the magic of a Nocaster. :D
     
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    Cool. Would be interesting to see what Fender come back with! No doubt they're both legit Custom Shops so there's maybe some reason behind the "Telecaster" decals.:cool:

    Yeah, there's nothing like a CS Nocaster, love mine, it's my number one!
     
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    I hear you ..... my other 'keeper' guitars are suddenly lame. :confused: It's the most amazing thing I've ever played. Try playing it through a 57 Champ reissue or a Champion 600 .... plugged straight in!
     
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    I am playing through a Victoria 20112 (Tweed Deluxe) or Carr Rambler. Done! Nuff said. :lol:
     
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    That's even better! :D
     
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