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Criticizing guitar players who begin singing...

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by 3-Chord-Genius, Jan 18, 2021.

  1. 3-Chord-Genius

    3-Chord-Genius Poster Extraordinaire

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    I've noticed that people who are known as great guitar players, but also do lead vocals, are criticized as, "he should just stick to guitar playing", etc., And in most cases, their singing sounds great.

    I've heard these criticisms of Joe Bonamassa, Joe Satriani, Yngwie Malmsteen, Paul Gilbert, and a few others. But upon listening to them, they don't sound any worse than any other famous singers. I remember a goof made by a radio station a long time ago, where a DJ was criticizing David Gilmour's vocals, saying, "Roger Waters was a better singer. Gilmour should stick to guitar playing because this new Pink Floyd stuff doesn't sound very good", not realizing that David Gilmour sang most of the early Pink Floyd stuff.

    I've noticed a similar phenomenon with people criticizing directors who perform cameos in their own movies. Quentin Tarantino's cameo in Pulp Fiction was pretty awesome and funny, but the comments are the along the lines of, "He should stick to directing, he can't act.".
     
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  2. kLyon

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    Your point is taken, with this exception:

    Have you ever heard Larry Carlton sing?

    Of course, he's one of the world's greatest electric guitarists... but it's really hard to listen to those tracks))
     
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    Emphasis on the word criticize.
     
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    You want a world-class guitarist (in the top 5 in the world imho) who should not sing lead vocals?? Steve Howe.


    On his second album he seemed to take the hint and only sang one song.
    His voice works alongside of Chris Squire’s doing Yes harmonies but he shouldn’t have tried to carry a song himself. Sorry Steve — love your guitar-playing!!
     
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    I remember a story Stevie Ray told, that when his brother Jimmie started to get popular and play in clubs, he lectured Stevie about how he better learn to sing. He said, how many great guitar players can you name that don't sing? Most people can name Santana, Page or Jeff Beck, but there's hundreds of really great guitar players that nobody ever knows their name, because they don't sing. SRV claims that then and there, he started singing, even though he thought he had a lousy voice.

    Critics be criticising, whatever.
     
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    Chet should have stuck to guitar only. JMHO
     
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    My biggest supporter of my guitar playing is my wife.:)

    My biggest critic of my singing is ... my wife.:oops:
     
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    Keef can't really catch a break even as he writes lyrics that Mick sings.
     
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    I don’t see a problem. When a singer picks up a guitar and tries to crap out some chords poorly, it’s the same thing. Voice is an instrument just like any other, it should be respected just as much as guitar or anything else is. It isn’t just some icing on the cake. If you can’t do a decent job, you shouldn’t think about picking it up.

    also too, weird you mention bonamassa along with Gilbert and malmsteen. as much as I dislike bonamassa, he’s certainly a “passable” singer. The other two definitely are not.
     
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    No.... Now I have to!!
     
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    What the crap?! He sounds like those guys who upload self-produced songs to Reverberation who can play guitar, but insist on singing.
     
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    I’m admittedly less critical of singing if someone is a great player, drummer, etc. Many a great player gets by on good chops but average singing. Of course if you want to be a frontman you better have some strong vocals.
     
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    I like Keith’s vocals. “Before They Make Me Run!”
     
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    I LOVE to Criticize others!
    Really makes me feel GOOD about all of the shortcomings I reuse to admit to.
     
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    I like Joe Bonamassa's voice.
    He's got substance in his vocals.

    Steve Vai, on the other hand, not so much.

    Edward Van Halen had an average voice, but he contributed some harmonies.
    Most people assumed the high harmonies were Eddies, but that was (of course) Michael Anthony.

    Tommy Emmanuel is an odd study;
    He plays instinctively and beautifully, but he rarely sings at all.
    But he's got a lovely voice, that man.
    He really does.

    I admire that Ace Frehley has made a career of playing great rock guitar, and singing many of his own compositions, but he really isn't a proper singer.
    Even he would admit that much.

    Okay, I'm gonna shut up now.

    :(
     
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    I like Happy and You've Got The Silver. He's got a great voice to mix up a Stones album.
     
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    Critics gonna crit.

    A lot of people talk without knowing what they're taking about.
     
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    I generally prefer Bonamassa's singing to his guitar playing. He's quite a good singer, and while he is also a good guitarist, he tends to get manic and shred-y, which is not a problem with his singing.
     
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    I can do a workman-like job of playing guitar. I don’t embarrass myself, but neither do I suspect that I’m in any danger of being accused of greatness. I’ve played with a lot of guitarists who are much better at it than me and nobody ever complained, so I guess I do a passable job.

    Singing is a different story. I’ll even acknowledge that I sing reasonably well, and people seem to like it when I sing. It’s weird though. I listen to a lot of heavy rock and metal, but if it’s me performing, I play and sing outlaw country and some classic rock. It’s what suits my voice best.

    Some of the singers that I like, if you listen and think about it, don’t have very good voices. But they’re distinctive. They don’t sound like anybody else. You know it’s them the instant that you hear them. I’m sure you can think of at least a few singers like that.

    But their voices suit their songs, and the songs don’t sound right if somebody else sings them, at least to my ears.
     
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