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Coworker brought in a Kay Stratotone 136

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by DavidV, Aug 8, 2018.

  1. fenderchamp

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    If it was I, I would tell him how much it will cost, stick with that price and, if he has pie- in- the- sky dreams about selling it, let him deal with it.
    But the price of a proper pickup will figure heavily.
    The parts market is crazy.
     
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    I can't see paying big bucks for one of those, as mentioned there are plenty of them around in good condition that can be had for less than it will cost to restore this piece of wood.
    And at this point that's all you have , an old piece of wood.
     
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    Its kind of like the dude who tells you he has a 1970's challenger in his backyard.
    He tells you he has seen these things bring $70K+at auction.

    You are interested in maybe buying it and rebuilding it and he tells you he will let it go for $50K

    and then you get there and see this.

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    You might try to explain to your friend that this was a cheap student guitar that ended up in the garbage or butchered up by the kid that owned it.

    The few all original examples are valuable.

    The far more common butchered up examples are not worth much, and the missing parts are worth more than the butchered husk.

    Maybe show him the difference in price between an all original blackguard and a refin with filled routs and replaced hardware.

    The modded refin'd restored guitar is worth 20% of the rare all original.

    I have a comparatively mint Stratotone that only needs a finish and parts.
    My somewhat educated guess is that I could make more money selling the husk than profit after restoring it with original parts.
    No wood has been removed.

    If someone wants an original they will buy an original.

    If someone wants a butcher job, they can make it into any configuration they choose.
    Sell it as is.
     
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    Here’s mine, still cool and even has a pretty nice fingerboard.

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    Baseball bat neck and 1 13/16" nut!
     
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    You guys will be happy. He went to a tech earlier today that essentially told him the same thing you guys did. The only way he would get 1000 dollars out of the guitar would be if he put 1000 dollars into the guitar....

    So we have a project. I'll post any pictures on this thread when we get to working on it. I think he's planning on playing when it's all said and done. Does anyone have recommendations for a bridge? There are two brass bushings just like in the last two pictures, I'm not sure I've ever seen one that style before. Or should I just get an archtop bridge sand it flat and ignore the brass bushings?

    We aren't sure on a pickup yet. He told me his grandfather may have the pickup it came with and from the description it could actually be the original pancake pickup. If it isn't then we may just go with a p90 or two.
     
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    I'd see if a TOM post fits those bushings and fabricate a rosewood bridge to sit on the TOM posts.
     
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    Or a wrap around! It was a student guitar and you can't beat a good wrap around!
     
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    That would be cool too but the inserts would certainly have to be changed.
    The overall width is darn close to the same as a TOM but narrower than stoptail/ wraparound studs.
     
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    Archtop bridge would be difficult to use on a slab body due to no neck angle. The string action would be too high.

    Making a one piece bridge out of wood, brass or aluminum would work out very well. Only other options I can see is to pull the inserts, fill the holes and drill new ones for a wrap around bridge. Or leave the inserts in and use a hardtail multi-saddle bridge like the ones used on hardtail Strats, a Tele half bridge or Dano bridge.
     
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    In good condition, with light wear. Worn in natural relic.
     
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    Was thinking of trying these, they look cool.
     
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    Darn! It might be worth it though for a good wraparound.
     
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    I like GFS pickups a lot. They obviously aren't as good as true boutique pickups, but for the price you can't beat them. I think their goldfoils have gotten pretty good reviews too.
     
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    We were thinking of these surface mount ones from GFS but can't find any demos for them. They look fairly similar to the pancake that was on it before with the added benefit of not routing out any more of this poor guitar.. https://www.guitarfetish.com/GFS-Metal-Foil-Single-Coil-Ferrite-Surface-Mount-Chrome_p_27755.html

    There's one with Alnico 5 magnets too https://www.guitarfetish.com/GFS-Metal-Foil-Single-Coil-Alnico-V-Surface-Mount-Chrome_p_27756.html
     
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    AllParts also sells foil foil pickups. I used the ones without adjustable pole pieces on a Teisco type build and they sounded pretty good. Price was about the same as GFS.
     
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    Um.... that should’ve read “gold foil”.
     
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