I ran across an old VTM styled 412MS slant cab. The owner said he bought it new as part of a full stack. For such a low price, I couldn't pass it up. I was thinking that the speakers might not be so good and that at least I would get a well made 412 at a low price, sell or trade the speakers, and replace them with something better later on. But this thing rocks nicely as is with my DSL-50 on the classic channel with everything set on 10 except the bass set on 1 to 2. I had been thinking for a while about selling this amp and eventually building a JTM45 from a kit. I think that isn't going to happen now and that my Marshall craving is well enough satisfied with that head into the Peavey cab. And if I do build a kit, it is going to be a big boy Super Lead. This cab can take it, and it is plenty beefy and warm enough that such a loud amp wouldn't be an ear killer. I also picked up a 90's Peavey Combo 115 with a Black Widow speaker for little more than that 412 cab. I never played one of these, but apparently they have a little more grunt (200 watts @ 4 ohm) than the very similar TNT 115 amps (150 watts @ 4 ohm) and a builtin compressor. It's a punchy amp/speaker and admirably loud for a single 15". It would hold down the bottom grunt in a 3-piece punk band just fine. But it has a speaker issue, which I'm thinking is vent filter foam goop stuck in the voice coil gap. I'll tear into it tomorrow to find out. But even if I have to end up replacing the speaker, it was a good deal. Keep selling off those big o' dinosaurs fellas. There are still some of us out here who would love to have them.