Correct speakers for a Twin Reverb

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  1. Telecastoff1

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    "The a correct speaker for a Twin Reverb is the one that sounds good to you.
    One of mine has Radio Shack Utahs and the other some Celestions I had laying around when I got sick of the JBL D131s.
    I like the Radio Shack ones better."

    I used to love those Radio Shack Utahs. I installed those in quite a few amps and cabs back in the day and was never disappointed.
     
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    I went back and read the description from the dude I got the Oxfords off. Maybe he’s wrong? I see tons of 12T6s but not a lot of these, maybe because they broke more often?

    “Stock speakers from a '63 Twin and know to be the best sounding among the Oxford 12s. As you can see, these are not beauties, but with the doping/tissue paper repairs that sound great in lower wattage applications as-is or would be great subjects for recone if you desire to crank 100 watts through them.

    Unlike the later Oxfords, these do not have widened voice coil gaps and that poor bass response... in contrast, these I feel are superior to Jensen 12" speakers. Why am I selling then? I only have amps with 10" speakers right now.

    While these would sound great in anything, the amps that most readily come to mind are various Twins, Deluxe Reverb, etc. I think it could be reasonably stated that these are the greatest traditional sounding speakers ever for a Twin. In my humble opinion, Twins lose some of their inherent character with JBLs, Altecs, or Celestions. Peter Green agrees.“
     
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    The best Twin I ever heard had Eminence Red, White, and Blues in it.

    You've got a lot of recommendations here. Probably more than you need. Let us know what you end up with and how you like it.
     
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    Light doping is always good, IMHO:eek:
     
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    Okay, I’ll admit to an error. It seems that Fender did use the 12M6 in the blonde 6G Twins.
    http://www.ggjaguar.com/fendamp3.htm

    The 12T6 was used in the BF TR’s.....no reference to the 12M6 but it could have happened, I suppose. I have two 12T6’s from back in the day that did not survive the challenges of working in a BFTR. These were narrow voice coil gap, high efficiency T6’s built in 1965...before the change to the wider voice coil gap.
     
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    Yes, they are somewhat heavy, but to me, well worth it in the way my Twin finally sounds. What have you gained if you have light-weight speakers in there and don't like the sound of your amp? It makes perfect sense to me. Just sayin'.
     
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    As an old fart, I LOVE the sound and punch of JBLs, and the E-120-8s are among those I love. However, at approximately 23 lb apiece, they make a twin, which is heavy anyway, into a back breaker. I took a flyer on a pair of Jensen Stealth 100 watt neodymium speakers. At under 5.5 LB each, they make a huge difference in the weight of my twin, and the sounds produced are pure Twin. Mine weighs in under 65 lb, which is slim and trim for a Twin.
     
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    I have 2 Silverface Twin reverbs that I rebuilt as AB763 and a PPI master volume. I’ve tried Jbl’s, Emi’s, Weber’s, and I decided to try the new Jensen CK12N, @ 50 watts each. To me it solidified the sound of a twin that I was looking for. I have a 95 Twin Amp, that works very well with a baltic birch sealed cab and a Weber Silver Bell and a Weber Blue Dog, it’s very efficient, not overly bassy, sort of tight sounding and a very forward Midrange. Also, I just got a Thiele TS806 cabinet with an Eminence Delta Pro 12 in it it is excellent with every guitar I tried with it. But overall, you can’t go wrong with the 2 Jensen’s as a combo.
     
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    Each speaker carries 1/2 the wattage meaning each needs to handle 50W minimum. A pair of 70W speakers is right around where you want to be. I'm running a pair of Eminence Texas Heats in mine and liking them a lot.
     
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    Is that the fender special design ones? Would you mind elaborating? That is what i have in my SFTR but I don't know much about how they sound relative to other speakers.
     
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    Blue label Special Design sounds correct. I think the designers selected or specified the right speakers for the job. Swapping random speakers runs a high risk of loosing the Fender sparkle, adding harshness, graininess, poor balance, etc. I think its optimistic to think we can transform a Twin by installing Celestions for instance. Sometimes we swap and swap, put the originals back in, and realize they had it right to begin with. Its not trendy, but I really think its hard to outsmart a major manufacturers R&D.
     
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    Take a look at the growing variety of neo speakers.

    I run Emi Li'l Texas neo 12's in my Fender-voiced amps. They sound good (just right for that Fender sound), have sufficient (over 100 W) power handling, and weigh a little more than 4 pounds. Compare that to your EV and JBL speakers and the Twin becomes less of a backbreaker.
     
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    Consider the Eminence 1258's too. I put a pair in a cabinet for a '73 Bandmaster Reverb. That's a milder beast than your Twin, but the 1258's are beautifully clear, and can growl plenty when you push them.
     
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    I'll second the L'il Texas in a Twin. Great cleans, not spiky but pushable, 100 watts and four lbs. each. 1258s are good, too, but darker, maybe boomy with two. Lotsa bass. The C12N has those jangly mids some like. Get these if you have a 12-string or play any '60s British Invasion music.
     
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    I've mentioned this before in other threads. At some point I'd like to try a pair of Mavericks in my BFTR. I probably like the RS Utahs in the SFTR so much because they aren't real efficient. With a Maverick you can adjust sensitivity from about 91db to 99. Otherwise with new speakers I don't know of anything under about 99 db and you don't need that in a big amp. Atleast I don't.
     
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    The correct speaker for a twin Reverb is an Eminence Cannabis Rex. It’s only 50watts but two wired up parallel will yield 100watts.
    I’ve been running them in my 93 Reissue for 4 years now and all is well. Once they break in, they are warm, woody and beautiful!
     
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