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Copper wiring?

Discussion in 'Tele-Technical' started by Zillinois, Feb 15, 2014.

  1. Zillinois

    Zillinois Friend of Leo's

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    Has anybody ever tried copper wire for guitar wiring?
    Copper supposedly conducts electricity better...
     
  2. Gautfrid

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    Er, most 'guitar wiring' is copper IME.

    What have you been using? :)
     
  3. Rob DiStefano

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    do you mean solid copper as opposed to multi-strand? for the most part, other than gauge, no difference.
     
  4. Keyser Soze

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    Agreed with all of the above, I'd be surprised to find wire in a guitar that wasn't copper.

    Electrically speaking, for this application stranded and solid core are equivalent.

    But stranded wire is a much better choice for inside a guitar. Solid core wire does not like to be bent, and will work harden, increasing the chances for a break.

    Wire may not look like copper if it has been pre-tinned to improve ease of soldering.

    Because passive pickup voltages (and current) are tiny, small gauge wire (e.g. 22-24 gauge) is plenty good.
     
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    Yes I have. It works great.
     
  6. Zillinois

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    Yes, I guess I meant solid instead of strand wire. Makes sense that it might be harder to work with. Obviously, cooper wire in pickups, but I mean more for connections to pots, etc.
     
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    I use solid....stripped from house wire (14g) when I wire up a set of pots for a hollow body, 335 sheraton etc. for the ground wires between pots

    Do it on a template and it makes it easier to maneuver everything into place through the f hole.
     
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    You're getting into hi-fi enthusiast golden ears territory with that one ;)
     
  9. red57strat

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    Copper hook up wire is the norm inside guitars.

    Stranded copper wire is better inside a guitar. It's less likely to break when it's manipulated. You'll gain absolutely nothing from going to solid wire. In fact, with the AC voltages inside a guitar, the greater surface area of stranded wire might be a benefit (though you'd never hear it).
     
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    At very high frequencies and very long distances, you'll loose more gain in your signal with stranded wires but not in a guitar's signal range and lenghts.

    Reminds me not to buy 150$ monster speaker cables and use standard 12 AWG power cables instead.
     
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    you mean I can stop beating my old pennys out into long round thin lengths.... to wire up my guitars...

    whew..... I thought there must be an easier way by now...... wires? you say... tell me more.;)
     
  12. Zillinois

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    another reason I ask is that Seymour Duncan is now selling pickups using silver, and they are easily the most expensive pickups on the planet. So it got me thinking about copper all the way through the system from pickup to wiring to amp.

    Zephyr Silvers
     
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    I thought stranded wire was used in audio circuits to minimize the "skin effect", which results in variable resistance for different frequencies. At short lenghts, it is probably not detectable. Except to some people. Stay frosty!
     
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    C'mon dude they got at least $30 worth of silver in 'em. ;)
     
  16. Zillinois

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    exactly.
     
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    I don't think you're understanding wiring too well. Your pickups are wound in copper wire already, your hookup wires from pickups to jack is copper already, your jack lead from guitar to amp is copper already - what's left? :)

    As it goes. 'Better' electrical conductivity is a bit of a moot point in a passive guitar circuit, especially in a transducer. But if people want silver wound pickups...
     
  18. Zillinois

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    Yes, I understand that, I think I mis-stated my original question.

    Would the gauges of wire make a difference?
     
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    Not much. I've used small and larger wire. It just doesn't make a difference. As stated, maybe with an active system it does.

    If you want to empty your pockets on precious metals, gold conducts much better than copper. I doubt you could Here the difference in a guitar though.
     
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    A difference to what?

    :confused:
     
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