Converting a LP Studio to P90s

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I have a little used LP Studio (1998) and a frequently used Heritage 555.
Since I saw Get Back I’m jonesing for an Epiphone Casino but thought it might be interesting to convert the LP to a P90 guitar using
https://www.fralinpickups.com/product/p-90-humbucker-cover/
Any thoughts?

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I have not found humbucking P90 types to quite be the same. Haven't tried those though.
Tried Phat Cats, Gibson P94's, and P92's

A soapbar can be converted to fit in a HB place, but it's very close between the trim ring and the windings! I ruined one of two doing it.
Bend the brass and cut. Then drill and tap the screw hole:


 
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I have done it.I also have a Les Paul Studio,its from 1993 or 1994.Some years ago I didnt like the sound of the original humbuckers anymore.Because I like P90s, I installed a pair of Phat Cats.I did not change pots.
Its hard to explain with words - the guitar to my ears now sounds more interesting,focused,pure and rough.Still enough power and gain.
And the bridge -PU even has a bit of "twang" ....
 

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Phat Cats are sorta OK if you swap the magnets (A2s) for A5s. Why SD used A2s in a metal-covered 'P90' design is a mystery to me...
 

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Phat Cats were designed for the Hamer Newport, which is a 335ish body. they work great in that guitar. actually... I made a Phat Cat Strat and work great in that one too
 

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I have a little used LP Studio (1998) and a frequently used Heritage 555.
Since I saw Get Back I’m jonesing for an Epiphone Casino but thought it might be interesting to convert the LP to a P90 guitar using
https://www.fralinpickups.com/product/p-90-humbucker-cover/
Any thoughts?

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I say go for it. @studio1087 posted a good idea above, but I would call Ryan at Bootstrap Pickups, and see if he could custom-wind a pair of P-90's in a humbucker "format". Might not cost much more for two than the Seymour Duncan single. Good luck. ;)
 

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The PRails I put in my SG are fantastic. Also used the Triple Shot rings.
They paired the Phat Cat coil with a thin low output single coil and you get great HB tones in parallel of series.
The Phat Cat without metal cover is a bit more aggressive like a good P90 can be, but can also get nice Jazzy cleans.
The rails are good when they're together with another coil from the other pickup in phase or out. You can get convincing Strat/Tele tones this way.

Wired to 500k pots and .022 cap.

I saw a thread here where someone mounted Dog Ear P90s in a HB route and it covered the old route well enough with a little extra routing length wise. You may have to cut the dog ears to fit the arch top though.
 

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These are a couple Gibson soap bars installed in a couple Epiphone’s With nothing else done except the four corners of each guitar rout opened up to accommodate the pick ups. EDIT-I also add that these are the type of p90 that usually screws down with a couple of very long screws through the pick up into the body. They are flush with the covers and there is no metal to cut off or anything-no dog ears or such. you could choose to screw them down also but I used industrial double stick they haven’t come loose since I installed them. I don’t remember what’s holding down the covers-they’re either just really nicely fit or possibly a tiny bit of hot glue, etc

Seeing as how you mentioned studio LP, I included a close-up of the rear 59 Seymour with the little mini switch I installed in the pick up ring/bezel. I originally put one of these in my own studio LP 20 or 30 years ago, to split the 59 Seymour I had in that one also. I didn’t want to alter the guitar, and I didn’t have any p-pull/p-push’s With a long enough shaft to push through the top.
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Believe it or not, the Duncan P Rails neck model, on the P90 coil only, is the best P-90-in-humbucker-form out there, IMO. Plus it lets you get Fender-ish tones and humbucker tones, if you should choose to wire it up for switching. They are ugly as sin, but probably the best pickup invented since the G&L MFD. And you can make them look like a million bucks by rubbing the Duncan logos off, and installing open trim rings on them.

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I’ve decided against the modification and will pursue selling the LP and buying a USA Casino.

If you play a lot of lead, you might be better with a Made in Korea (MIK) Casino. You give up almost two frets of access with the 'classic' design. At some point Epiphone changed the neck joint to be more like a 335 which gives you increased access. I'm not sure which design the USA model follows.

https://www.tdpri.com/threads/kind-of-a-weird-discovery-about-my-elitist-casino.1089055/

Instead of buying an Elitist, my suggestion is buy a MIK and upgrade or get fret work if necessary (mine just needed a setup). In fact, I got a decent deal on my Elitist and wouldn't mind selling it for the same if you are interested and don't mind losing some fret board access. That said, even though it is nicer and even ignoring the design issue I described above, IMO the Elitist is not worth the extra $1000-1200. It is only slightly better than the MIK.

I have not played a Made in China Casino so can't comment on them.

I will add that if you play really loud or with high gain, the Casino will most certainly feedback far more than a solid body would. Just something to consider.

EDIT: Jayyj answered some of my questions in this post.

https://www.tdpri.com/threads/kind-...bout-my-elitist-casino.1089055/#post-11108669
 




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