Convert MV Twin Reverb to PPIMV

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Thanks, but it's not clear to me what your last sentence means. The additional R prevents BD? Isn't that a good thing?
Many music "genres" require overdriven amp sound which setting playing volume lower make lower or even prevent. Push pull Power Amp including Phase Inverter and HV supply can be very important where also Output Transformer and guitar Loudspeaker have big roles

All volumes/gains lower and playing quieter lower the distirtion. MV lower or prevent the distortion what Power Amp could add if pre amp output is high enough.

PA Blocking Distortion is "major overdrive distortion" and it can be heard as "amp character sound". Electrically BD is "bias shift".

PA High Voltage Sag what Tube Rectifier amps have more also increase distortion which setting Volumes lower.

PA distortion what come when loudest overdriven notes are inside loudspeaker "resonance peak" which then increase Screen current because anode voltage swings very low to less than 100V. Electrical explanation is "loadline pass G1=0V below the knee". Searching that bring articles and analysis etc...

Output Transformer Core Saturation is one distortion which heavy overdrive can produce. It increase HV sag when power tube or tubes begin to pull anode current thru OT primary resistance instead of primary impedance. Push Pull tubes imbalance can make this happen earlier when primary currents come different.

Flyback Pulses is one overload phenomenon but obviously it is so extreme it is not wanted or needed. It can be seen using good oscilloscope and it look interesting but also scary?

NFB is interaction which I don't fully understand when it interact with guitar loudspeakers pequliar frequency/impedance response. When circuit has Presence/Resonance I have not done enough measuring to say much but it also look very interesting.
 

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PA Blocking Distortion is "major overdrive distortion" and it can be heard as "amp character sound". Electrically BD is "bias shift".
Unfortunately the term 'blocking distortion' gets used inappropriately.
Blocking distortion sounds like the amp is broken, it occurs when bias shift becomes so extreme that anode current gets pushed into / close to, cutoff, such that the signal is literally blocked, the signal fizzles out momentarily.

So, whilst bias shift is pretty much inevitable with RC coupled stages, and so is component of most desirable guitar tones, if it becomes so extreme that it results in blocking distortion, it is pretty much invariably undesirable, because the signal fizzles out, it sounds like something's wrong with the amp.
 
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Unfortunately the term 'blocking distortion' gets used inappropriately.
Blocking distortion sounds like the amp is broken, it occurs when bias shift becomes so extreme that anode current gets pushed into / close to, cutoff, such that the signal is literally blocked, the signal fizzles out momentarily.

So, whilst bias shift is pretty much inevitable with RC coupled stages, and so is component of most desirable guitar tones, if it becomes so extreme that it results in blocking distortion, it is pretty much invariably undesirable, because the signal fizzles out, it sounds like something's wrong with the amp.
Thats why I wrote that phenomenon causing BD is "bias shift"

Output can clip without bias shift when frequency is inside loudspeaker resonance peak and anode voltage sweep stop coming lower and Control Grid signal has not reach the bias level. Output clip without "COD curve" in the middle!

This is possible "oscilloscope measure" installing higher than "nominal" resistance to tube amp output, for example 3x...5x higher. Loadline angle turn lower more "below the knee". Setup simulate what happen inside speaker resonance but then this happen all frequencys. Max Output Power is lower and more of it or even all Power come operating A-class.
 

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Thats why I wrote that phenomenon causing BD is "bias shift"
I was trying to explain / clarify your statement "Electrically BD is "bias shift""
Because on these forums, I get the impression there's widespread confusion between the terms, such that almost every amp issue seems to raise concerns of blocking distortion / bad OT :).
Output can clip without bias shift
Yes, the JTM45 is a common example of a shallow load line causing anode clipping to occur before grid current clipping (anode saturation voltage is reached with signal Vpk < Vbias).

Interestingly, as I see it, that's a distortion mechanism which is unusual in typical preamp circuits, such that I don't Merlin has described it.
 
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