Concert Movie Gripe!

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  1. Texicaster

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    Geez! What were the editors or film makers thinking if at all! Just watched a 1970 Allman Bros video and as Duane takes flight what do we see? A close up of the drummers face!

    This was typical of many 60s and 70s concerts movies I've seen. Some how they figure we'd rather see Hendrix face close up instead of his guitar playing! or they'd swirl some psychedelic graphics all over Clapton or focus on some player who's not doing much. Gregg Allman comping chords as Duane speaks with god!

    Just horrendous those complete idiots had no clue that they were documenting historic performances!

    It's a shame that we have so little good footage of the greats who fell too soon due to artistic vision of some numbskull film maker.....

    Rant off....for now!
     
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    The difference between film makers and people that happen to own movie cameras.
     
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    It seems that those who film concerts are not satisfied with recording an event, they want to inject their "art" into it also. Extreme closeups suck.
     
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    I was part of an opera once(actually twice, but the second one got filmed). The filming was a phuggin disaster! When an (for the story)important close up would have been needed they chose to widescreen the whole stage and when there were spectacular numbers with lots of stuff happening all over... yep, you guessed it... then they zoom in on somebody's neck of all things. This happened in 2011 if my memory serves me correctly. My point is; this kind of bumblephuqery is alive and well and survived the 70's eminently.
     
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    I wish I could remember who it was, but I saw a TV performance once of a well known singer, who realized the camera was on him as the guitarist started a solo, and the star very obviously pointed to the guitarist to indicate THAT'S where the camera should be pointing. Halfway through the solo they got it.
     
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    Reminds me of this clip, during the solo(s):

     
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    It’s almost as if they’re prioritizing things other than trying to make instructional videos for aspiring learners.
     
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    Complaining about films from the '60s and '70s -- we need TDPRI bingo cards!
     
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    Yea right!

    Prioritizing the drummers nostrils!
     
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    lol yeah, as if most people watching would know what the hell was going on anyway. i had a friend who didn't take up trumpet until his late twenties (and is now a pro jazz musician, go figure). he straight up told me he barely even had an idea of what a verse or chorus was before he started.
     
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    I was watching this yesterday. The producer doesn't seem to understand the difference between lead and rhythm.

     
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    Grateful Dead "Sunshine Daydream" is a real train wreck!

    It's redeemed by capturing a few iconic moments of the Dead at the top of their game but even they were appalled when it was screened for them. Endless topless concert chicks and naked dude on a pole...

    Jack Straw basically ruined by "side attractions"...

    I guess back then having a camera made you a film maker...

     
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    I’m not a fan of close up, especially guitars neck fretting.
     
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    I think every time I've been to a Clapton concert every time he plays a solo, on the big screens they focus in only on his fretboard. I'd rather see him doing "guitar face" than watch that all the time.
     
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    I might have posted this before. Back in the '70s, on the Tom Snyder Tomorrow Show (NBC wee hours show, after Tonight and before Today), Christopher Cross was singing "Ride Like the Wind." On the guitar solo, the camera did a close up on the bass player's hand instead of the guitarist's.

    The director obviously knew nothing about music.
     
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    Now that was funny!
     
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    It happened all the time. We were also treated to a psychedelic interpretation, replete with repetitive zooms in and out, and the dreaded chroma-key experiments.

    At first, I understood that these videos were the product of older squares, who just didn't get it. It reinforced my belief that my aesthetic outlook was on a different plane from them. This gave me more courage. This is one of the reasons I have watched and listened to incompetent, clueless performances.
     
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    There's tons of examples out there. Drive's me bonkers as well.
    The Song Remains The Same is full of them, but even though it was filmed over three shows, I do know that it seemed every time something worth filming came up, that particular camera had run out of film. They had to do weird editing to make it interesting. Remember the little hint of Heartbreaker? That song was a powerhouse staple at Zep shows and it's just >thppttt< in the movie.
     
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