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Compressor Pedals w/o pick thunk/clunk ?

Discussion in 'The Stomp Box' started by NoTeleBob, Feb 24, 2021.

  1. NoTeleBob

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    Are there compressor pedals that don't have the common clunk/thunk when they are used to pick single strings? That "pick click" that they seem to add? I know it's popular with some music (perhaps country?). But I'm just looking to get the compression without the clunk.

    Qualifier: The compression pedals I've tried have effectively only one knob (compresion/threshhold) and then maybe a volume control to control output level.

    Does a compressor that adds controllable attack, ratio, blend, etc have the ability to do what I want? Or do I need to add something else or do something different? (I'm not using a lot of pedals simultaneously).
     
  2. Modman68

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    Get something with a blend control. I like the xotic sp, but the are plenty of other options.
     
  3. paulblackford

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    I don't have an issue like the one you're describing with the Mooer Yellow Comp. It's pretty nice. Low noise.
     
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    I hear a sound like a baseball card in bicycle spokes whenever I try a pick, which is one reason I quit using them many years ago.

    I think the boss compressor has an "attack" knob to turn down, as does that white shell JHS one that came out recently.
     
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  5. Jakedog

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    I use the EHX Tone Corset. Dumb name, kinda silly paint job. Excellent pedal. It has adjustable attack, and a blend knob to bring in more of your straight signal. I’m fairly sure it’ll do what you want.
     
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    The more expensive, the quieter. My philosophy about compressor pedals, is the more knobs the better. Basically, anything less than four knobs is combining compression attributes for you, so that you can adjust the compression faster and easier, but you lose control of adjusting those attributes separately.
     
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    I like the Mooer also. It replaced the CS-2 that I used for years. It doesn't have an overly exaggerated attack, but it can still get ridiculously squishy if you crank it. I keep it down around 9 o'clock.
     
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  8. Mr. Lumbergh

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    If I'm interpreting you correctly, the "thunk" is that brief moment before the comp detects the note and clamps down so the initial picking seems more prominent. My kit build from BYOC has an attack knob and that gets rid of that because it starts to squeeze the note immediately.
     
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    Agreed, I'd much rather have the knobs and not need them than need them and not have them.
     
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    I really like the JHS Pulp’N’Peel. It has a simple to use blend of raw and compressed signal and it is great for setting a little roof on the level without any squish and can bring up soft notes if you need. It’s very transparent. It’s also got a DI built in and some other unique features.
     
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    You are hearing the attack time, which tends to be a bit long with guitar compressors so it lets the pick attack get thru.

    The MXR M87/M76 are the same pedal packaged differently, and that pedal is a copy of the Urei 1176. The 1176 was a studio compressor/limiter very well known for it's incredibly fast attack times. If I wanted to eliminate the click, I'd get a M87/M76 and start with the attack at its slowest and the release at its fastest. Crank the input and output until you have several dB of gain reduction, then adjust the attack until the click is gone. Then set the input and output again until it sounds the way you want.
     
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  12. Guitarteach

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    My Boss CS3 has an attack control and lowering the sustain control makes it act as limiter - which is the effect you are after by the sound of it.

    I can choose to have any degree of click. The tone control helps too if I want warm or jangle.

    Sounds like you are playing one trick pony compressors. Try a 4 knob type.
     
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    +1. Great reply!

    As the good Dr. said, you want something with a very fast attack. So avoid the common VCA types (dynacomp, CS-1/2, etc). As others mentioned, you may also like a blend control as it allows you to smooth things out, although IMO it's a bit of a different animal.
     
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    Yes, they do. You can also accomplish this by splitting the signal essentially running the dry signal in parallel to the comp. Its easier to get a comp with a blend knob though. The Xotic SP suggested above is the old Ross circuit with the blend knob added. They can be had used for very little spondukage.
     
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    I think there are two things you’re hearing~
    The initial attack before the comp clamps down, and the fact that by design, compression includes raising the noise floor.
    The more comp you dial in, the more pick clatter, finger noise, string squeals, etc are going to get amplified.
    Compensate by adjusting comp attack, and ratio.
    Blend knobs are a sort of work around compromise.
    Dump the pick and use your fingers.
     
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    Boss CP-1x. None of that unless you set it for that. To me, it just evens things out and makes everything sound better. Only compressor I’ve kept (maybe because it doesn’t sound like a compressor).
     
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    I turn the volume down on the guitar volume knob and turn the Compressor Boss cs3 volume up to compensate:)
     
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    I agree. It's a Diamond clone. Doesn't have the Dyna Comp qualities you are referring to. I personally like the click so I just picked up a DC clone, lol.
     
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    The two I've had both don't have this at some or all settings:

    - Orange Kongpressor
    - Keeley Compressor+

    Maybe the Keeley had it due to the whole OTA/Dynacomp/Ross heritage but I don't recall it being bad.

    The Orange is dead quiet for a compressor (it's optical).. but sometimes it seems so subtle I wish I'd kept the Keeley.

    It does sound like you're looking for optical perhaps.

    Have you tried a different pick? I assume you're attacking the strings really hard? Sometimes it seems like a different pickup height setting + different actual pick/pick attack can affect these sounds a lot.
     
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