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Compensated brass saddles: round or notched?

Discussion in 'Tele-Technical' started by rg440, Feb 12, 2021.

  1. rg440

    rg440 TDPRI Member

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    Regarding ease of setting intonation and keeping in tune, do the notched barrels offer an advantage over the round barrels with angled screws?

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  2. Ess Eff

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    I think the bevelled ones have too much offset on top n btm saddle.

    Manufacturers still haven't address this obvious problem.

    I just use the bevelled ones on the middle and the Intonation is much closer.
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  3. decibel

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    I prefer the round ones.
    Slightly more slack feel to the guitar, and they look better. Either is fine.
     
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    I have both on different guitars, they both seem to work fine.
     
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    I have used both, on different guitars, and had good results.
    It is, of course, the middle one that needs it the most. On a couple of them, I decided to flip the E-B saddle over; seems closer to right that way.
    It's conceivable that one set of angled screws could correct three guitars.
     
  6. buster poser

    buster poser Friend of Leo's Platinum Supporter

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    I have a Wilkinson, saddles are notched like the second picture. Intonation's dead on for each pair of strings, i.e., they seem to track sharp or flat "together" as advertised.
     
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    Look at the Gotoh In-Tunes available in brass and other metals. They are straight slotted. Slotted is nice for holding string in place. upload_2021-2-12_18-31-12.png
     
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    You can't feel (or hear) the difference between saddles!! Reeeeee
    Just kidding, I am glad some one else feels it too
     
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  9. yegbert

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    There are a number of brands that are made with elements of this type of design now, with the resulting competition keeping the price somewhat reasonable. And with a fairly narrow slot you can get the best of all worlds: compensation, appearance close to vintage, and keeping your strings from sliding around.
     
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    I've never found a difference that I could quantify. I wouldn't use the angled ones with a Bigsby or a bender for fear the string would move. So far I'm liking the gotoh notched in-tune type on my newest guitar. Works great, looks pretty stock.
     
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    I was a little confused as well. Ended up getting the standard Wilkinson un-notched and they have worked perfect. Intonation is great and slightly darker tone (most people wouldnt notice the tone but I'm picky) they look cool too. 20200716_141122.jpg
     
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  12. Ess Eff

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    I can def taste the difference.
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    FWIW, I put the compensated saddles on my Peavey Reactor and was able to get the intonation a little better.
     
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    But do you have taste???
     
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    The Gotoh saddles are great and are slotted, which is excellent. Only downside is that they are rounded on the bottom. The original Fender saddles are flat bottomed and thus can go lower. But then the Gotoh have more brass. But then I had to shim my neck to get low action with almost no relief... it's all a compromise.
     
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    'There is no accounting fior taste'
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    Hi.

    Yeah, they are pretty beefy. I filed the undersides down on the high and low Es to get the action lower.

    Can’t help with the OP question. I would hazard a guess though, that the most important thing is whether you like the look or not. Otherwise, probably not much difference.

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    FWIW on the slotted style vs beveled/compensated in terms of strings staying in place... I play 9-42s over an un-shimmed neck, so the break angle is dead stock (for a mid-00s MIM Tele). I strum fairly light, but bend and all that as much as the next gal/guy... zero issue with strings moving laterally on the saddles. In fact, I just pinched each string and pulled/pushed each with enough force to knock a couple cents off the tuning... they're stuck.
     
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    A lot of great replies. I hadn't even considered slotted vs not slotted.
    I'm going to try the non-slotted Wilkinson notched saddles. Thank you guys!
     
  20. medownsouth

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    Between the two I prefer the 2nd pictured set better when using compensated.

    Maybe I'm crazy, but after trying lots of different stuff, I find that I prefer the regular old 3 piece standard barrel saddles. A good tech can zero them in pretty closely, and I kind of like the little bit of slop left in intonation. To me, that's a tele's authentic voice.
     
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