Compensated brass saddles for wound third?

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  1. Little Jay

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    Does anyone know if you can find a set of compensated brass saddles for a wound 3rd string? For a wound 3rd, the D/G saddle would have to be the same as the E/A saddle. I could buy two normal sets and use the E/A saddle of one set as the D/G in the other, but a quality set is pretty pricey so I'd rather avoid buying two.

    Or maybe single saddles can be bought individually?

    Then again, I am also wondering if compensated saddles would be nessary at all and maybe a plain quality brass set would do just fine?

    Thanks for any advice or pointers!

    (I am in Europe, btw).
     
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  2. Little Jay

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    Wait a minute, I think I can answer my own question.....

    So I need this:

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    instead of this

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    Instead of flipping the saddle 180° (which wouldn't work, because then it ends up still orientated the same way) I have to turn it upside down to slant it to the opposite direction and then thread the height-adjust posts through the opposite direction! Right?

    (of course I would need a type of saddle that is symetrical up and down, to be able to flip it upside down, so the ones Fender are selling won't work since those are flattened at the underside)
     
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  3. fenderbender69

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    Gotoh In-Tune saddles fit the bill, they're actually designed to be flipped for this purpose. Another big plus is that they maintain your string spacing.
     
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    My AVRI 52 Hot Rod Tele has Joe Barden/Danny Gatton saddles. They came stock on the guitar.
     
  5. sjtalon

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    >Then again, I am also wondering if compensated saddles would be nessary at all and maybe a plain quality brass set would do just fine?<


    I have three teles with three barrels (two are brass).

    They are regular saddles.

    I had/have ZERO intonation issues. I also like wound G's, and have them on all my electrics (9 so far:confused:)

    I think intonation is overrated, and just another thing snake oil can get poured on.


    Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with compensated saddles of any sort. I just think it's overrated, another one of those..............oh you gotta have them, because of this or that intonation issue you'll have...................and mostly that comes from the folks that make them.
     
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    Setting up guitars for a living I can tell you that intonation is the most important part of the setup. Some people can't hear when notes are sharp or flat though when you're playing up the fretboard. But when I am in the audience I can.
     
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  7. Little Jay

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    Cool! Yes I see it in the specs now:
     

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    Someone, possibly unintentionally, even flipped them all three upside down, so up can see what they will look like!
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    I actually did that (flipped the middle for a wound G) once with a set of them!
     
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    I use Wilkinson comp saddles on my 27” baritone, I use 4 wound strings. It is properly intonated at multiple frets with a strobe tuner. You can reverse those saddles as needed and they are also very easy to file.
     
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    Spoken like a wild man axe master! If ya gotta sharpen the blade you ain't swinging it hard enough. :twisted:
     
  11. Little Jay

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    alright, more options than I could find myself. Thank you all!
     
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    Depending on the gauges, it might be best to use an uncompensated saddle in the middle position. You'll just have to see for yourself.
     
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    Philadelphia Luthier Tools saddles can do this too. I've used both PLT and Gotoh In-Tune saddles. Both are excellent and well made.
     
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    Mark Rutters will do you a wound G set of saddles if you ask him.
    I have 3 of them.
     
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    ah you mean Marc Rutters of Rutters Guitars?

    For a moment I thought you meant Mark Rutte, our Dutch Prime Minister…..
     
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    I hear you, brother!

    Intonation is worth sweating over, and this is true even as the player is nuancing some notes to get them more sweet, and laying off some other positions on the fretboard entirely if need be.

    Personally, on most projects I like a straight, plain barrel for a wound G string. The little compensation that's then needed can be tuned in by adjusting the height screw, of that straight barrel.
     
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    I've been using regular compensated saddles with my Teles, all have a wound thirds, no issues at all. I got a Tele with Callaham brass and two with Gotoh titanium saddles. I use a 18W for G and 28 for the D.
     
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    I use a wound 3rd and flip over the middle saddle to get the plain rounded side. this works for me
     
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