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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by gitold, Dec 6, 2018.
Vox coilies outweigh my Lavas, big time. FYI, imho
They are good and sound good.
Those that get these tangled up must be the same ones that lose the battery covers to their pedals
I haven't owned one since the '60's but I really like the idea of them. Since I sit when I play, it might just work for me.
that's what we had back then. Me and my brother used them... so did Jimi Hendrix and Cream and the Beatles. I was quite happy when the came back on the market, because they are pretty handy in a small and cluttered music room. They retract nicely and sit right on (or near) the amp, so you don't have to wind them up and put them away every time yo switch to a a different amp.
I use them to balance my Firebird Zeros...I bought 2 Ernie Balls..the best ones they have. Love Em '
coily cords increase the signal capacitance which makes the tone muddy. Some like to take the 'ice pick' off and these can do that. I like to just use the tone knob on the guitar if I need to do that.
I like a little "fight" from my strings and setup but it ends with having a tug-o-war with my cable.
I had one for several years that Albert king left behind when we opened for him one night. Definitely cut down the highs a bit. Wish I still had it!
I have the Vox coiled cable in white. I got it because it looks cool, not for any of the absurdities (lower or higher capacitance or whatever, increased treble, decreased treble, blah blah blah...) that some people are 100% certain these cables provide. My Vox cable never snapped, crackled, or popped. It's heavy, though.
I bought a Vox coily cable last time there was a thread about them.
Didn't care much either way.
They have relatively high capacitance. 'Tone suck'
We're certain because the differences are measurable. You can take a 20 foot cable that builds 11pF/ft for a 220pF cable. Or you can take a 20 foot coily cable that builds 38pF a foot for a 760pF cable. The difference only gets greater as you increase cable length. That's definitely audible with passive pickups, IME.
buy a cheap multimeter that measures capacitance, and you can see for yourself.
Hardly ever used them even back in the 70s. They have a habit of coiling with themselves. Also, a cord over 22' can affect (increase) the resistance minimally and affect the tone slightly.
DON'T ever use them if you have these kind of amps.
They (good ones!, not CHEAP ONES, about $70) are totally different now than in the 70s.
Great tone (imp) and no bending, memory or bad recoil. Vox weight 20lbs .lol Fenders crap out. imho
I have two: a Fender Koily from a few years back which I really like, except that I think it's cutting out on me now, and a Vox which seems more reliable but is heavy as hell. I wanna like them, but...
I only have one. I think they look cool; the retro factor and all of that. But they are a nuisance to use - a straight cable is so much easier to deal with.
Einstein's Theory of Relativity explains that space and time are interwoven and that to travel the vast distances in space we will need to "Fold or Bend space " to travel light years and make years seem like days and hours like seconds.
Therefore a coiled cable is six feet long coiled, 12 feet long uncoiled. Therefore I put fourth that a coiled un-stretched chord helps you sound faster.
Wilko Johnson has always used a red coiled cable with his Telecaster;
Here back in the 70's;
and here a couple of years ago:
I have a couple myself dating back to the 70's. I never found that a cable would tangle so long as I kept it away from other cables. Once it interacted with another coiled cable you knew that you were about to lose five minutes of your life.