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Classic Vibe serial letters?

Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by ELET Henry, Jun 3, 2011.

  1. ELET Henry

    ELET Henry Tele-Meister

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    I've recently bought this used Classic Vibe Tele and an delighted with it, these guitars are great value for money. What does baffle me is the letter code in the serial number starting CGS08. OK so C=China and 08=2008 but what does the GS part mean? If anybody knows I'd love to hear.
     

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  2. sjtalon

    sjtalon Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    Not that this is fact but I have read the other letters have something to do with the plant (as in which one)

    Just for trivia it will be interesting to see what others post.


    I have a CV Thinline Tele that is CGS10

    I have heard of CV's that are "CGR" and "CY"

    not trying to spread rumors, just more pieces to the puzzle.


    I just stumbled on this started by Mark but haven't had time to read though it yet.

    http://www.tdpri.com/forum/guitar-owners-clubs/114549-classic-vibe-tele-owners-club.html
     
  3. DOGMA Dunn

    DOGMA Dunn Friend of Leo's

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    Could be the acronym of the plant or city it was made in, but I could be wrong. China has pretty good quality control in these new CV guitars, and I think they did that because they expect their guitars to be worth a lot in the future, just like the Japanese.
     
  4. ELET Henry

    ELET Henry Tele-Meister

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    I'm pretty sure that you're right about the letters referring to the manufacturing plant. Some are identified on the internet but not the "GS" code. I had a look on the Classic Vibe Owners forum but am still non the wiser.
     
  5. Mark Davis

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    I can ask my friend Eric who works at the CV factory what it means.

    It takes a couple of days to get a reply.
     
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  6. sjtalon

    sjtalon Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    Thanks Mark, that would save me from reading the zillion posts on the thread I posted. I didn't know that existed.

    They must have made a S pile of them in '10 as I don't see any '11's yet.
     
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  7. chezdeluxe

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    Anything to report yet Mark ?
     
  8. Mark Davis

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    Still waiting the email takes along time to get to China. hahah I will email Eric again and see what he has to offer.
     
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    Thanks mate.
     
  10. Mark Davis

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    Ok got an answer not from Eric but from someone who emailed me that wants to remain unknown for some reason so I will respect their wishes.

    CGS080100513

    Thats my CV50's serial number.

    C is China
    G is the first letter of the name of the factory where its made
    S is Squier

    08 first 2 numbers in the serial is the year it was made
     
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  11. lckyjcky

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    I'll extrapolate the rest of the digits:

    513th guitar of the "planned" run of 100,000 CV's in 2008. Either they planned a maximum run of 100,000 cv's or never planned to make that many in 2008. I'll wager the latter.
     
  12. sjtalon

    sjtalon Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    Your extrapolation is missing the fact that there are 7 digits.
     
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    Check this out... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squier#Squier_Classic_Vibe_Series

    "'G' is for Grand Reward (the name of the factory where the Classic Vibe and Fender Modern Player Series are built)"

    So then my own CV Telecaster s/n is decoded as follows: "C" = China "G" = Grand Reward (the factory it was made in.) and "S" = Squire. "10" = 2010 the year it was made "12" = the month it was made (December) and "813" is the eight-hundred and thirteenth guitar made. (possibly a larger order for that month as result of Christmas-Season back orders, that or else in preparing for a new year.)

    The Wikipedia "Squire" article reads...

    "Miscellaneous Chinese serials: CD, CT, CJ, NC: C = China, the first number following the serial number prefix is the year. Probably made by Yako (Taiwan). The plant from which the COB serial number prefix models originate remains a mystery. No documentation or comment from the manufacturer has resolved the question of which plant produced them.

    Some Squiers that are sold only in the Chinese and Asian markets are made by Axl in China. These guitars usually have the serial number starting with CXS; with the 'X' standing for 'Axl'.

    Squier Classic Vibe series guitars/basses serial numbers start with CGS year of manufacture. 'C' is for China, 'G' is for Grand Reward (the name of the factory where the Classic Vibe and Fender Modern Player Series are built), and ’S' for 'Squier'."
     

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    This from Wikipedia (the real authority):

    Squier Classic Vibe series guitars/basses serial numbers start with CGS year of manufacture. 'C' is for China, 'G' is for Grand Reward (the name of the factory where the Classic Vibe and Fender Modern Player Series are built), and ’S' for 'Squier'.
     
  15. nicod98

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    For the same reason the Modern Player Fender Telecaster is CGF (F for Fender), as far as I know they are made in the same factory.
     
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    Decoding Classic Vibe guitars is probably more complex, see numbers of 3 which have been in my hands.

    CV 50s VB - CGS080500922 (year 2008, month 05?)
    CV 50s VB - CGS1717704 (year 2018, month doesn't make sense..)
    CVC - CGS1701554 (year 2017, month 01?)
     
  17. sjtalon

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    Wow, takes a long time to reach some countries I'm guessin'

    :D
     
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    I'm about to buy a CV Strat or a CV Tele today. Could it be for example ,CGS0805, 08 is the year and 05 is the fifth week of the year? Fender dates their stuff like that normally I think?
     
  19. sjtalon

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    read the post above mine.

    I haven't (as of yet) been able to find anything that supports the month of mfc.

    >Fender dates their stuff like that normally I think?<

    MIM's codes don't even tell you the month.

    Good luck on the purchase !
     
  20. Tuxedo Poly

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    Modern Players are manufactured by the Grand Reward subsidiary Farida hence CGF
     
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