Classic Vibe Blonde 50's bridge pickup readings

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  1. Chunkocaster

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    I swapped out the bridge pickup on my classic vibe blonde tele a few years back and just pulled it out ready for a new partscaster. I liked the pickup when it was installed, just wanted more sustain and beef for lead.
    I measured the CV bridge as I was considering buying a hot tonerider but it reads 8.94 and the Tonerider is 9.2 so not a real lot of difference. After a bit of a search on here I noticed another bridge pickup supposedly from a CV 50's blond tele and it had a different model number on the back. Do the bridge pickups vary in the classic vibe blonde teles?
    I'm interested to know if anyone else had measured theirs or knows if they used different winds?

    Here's a pic of the attached sticker. I've read that people mention the toneriders pickups are in the CV tele's but Tonerider don't make a pickup with this reading. I think I remember reading the blond teles have alnico 3 pickups whereas this might be alnico 2 going by that sticker, TCA2B?

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    Pretty sure I heard that some (most?) In the blonde CV were Alnico 3, others were the Alnico 5, but they were all tonerider made?
     
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    I just wonder if that A2 on the sticker means alnico 2?
    Tonerider Classic Alnico 2 bridge, TCA2B?

    I was looking at a pic of another CV 50's blond bridge pup a few minutes ago and the sticker was different. Now I cant find the damn thing.:rolleyes:
     
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    From searching this and other forums, I think that the tca2b are alnico 5, another pickup with a 1 in the part number is the alnico 3, but I could be very much mistaken.
     
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    I think the pic I seen of the other pickup had a 1 in it.
    This was factory fitted in my 2011 blond 50's tele so should be A3 like the others.
    Whatever it is I like it, it gets pretty raunchy for a single coil tele bridge pickup. The reading seems high for a Alnico5. I thought the Alnico3 was the hotter of the two pickups?
     
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    I think you're correct on the A3 being hotter, 9 point something? They always got the better reviews compared to the Àlnico 5 that came in the BSB, mine were definitely on the thin side
     
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    Mine having the 2 in the label and the other having a 1 made me think the 50's blond's might vary?

    I'm glad I took the time to check the reading before ordering the Hot classic tonerider because if this is Alnico 3 its probably the same if not very close to the Tonerider hot classic I was looking at buying.
     
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    I believe the cv60 tele came with a mixed set (3 & 5), maybe the other models did as well from time to time?
     
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    Could be? I think the other one I was looking at with the 1 in the label was a later 2017-2018 model?
     
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    Hope it all comes together sounding good, easily swapped out if not.
     
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    Thanks, I'm looking forward to having it back in use.
     
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    Rumor mill run rampant.

    CV pups are not Tonerider. They (Squier) make their own, in THEIR pup shop.

    CV Vintage blond are AIII (TCA2's)
    Neck 6.8 -7.0 KΩ
    Bridge 8.4-8.8K




    Butterscotch (TCA1's) AV mags....... also CV Thinline , CV60 & Custom Tele
    Neck 6.5K-6.7
    Bridge 5.8K




     
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    Great info there. It was strange to think Fender would use Tonerider to produce their pickups although I suppose many things are contracted out these days.
    Having another look at the tonerider hot vintage that reads 9.2 they have staggered pole pieces so would sound a bit different with that and being slightly hotter.
     
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    @Chunkocaster, I have the same pickup I pulled out of my cv50 when I put a Cavalier in the bridge position. It is labeled TCA2B (fender) - BK and it reads 9.03
     
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    Interesting. Do you have a source for this?
     
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    You got a nice and hot one. I thought my 8.94 was high.
     
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    Which part ?
     
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    Wire is not horsepower and even differences of up to 500Ω negligible. A screw turn or two will have more effect than that.

    The other thing in measuring DCr is, advertised spec, my meter, your meter, their meter, someone else's meter, ambient temperate, will have readings all over the place.
     
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    Those are observed values, I’d say, as we’ve been pondering these pickups for years. Squier publishes no specs other than the magnet types. Speculation about other magnet types is a waste of time.

    Squier created confusion with the CV Teles by associating different pickups with different guitar colors. To compound the confusion, for one year Squier changed the published spec to AlNiCo 5 for both colors, then changed it back at year’s end. IIRC this was in the early ‘teens, but I don’t remember which year.
     
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    The bit where you say Squier make their own pickups in their own factory rather than contracting them out to Tonerider. I thought it was fairly well established that they are made by Tonerider (but not necessarily the same specs as Tonerider's own models). Contracting out would be normal practice for a lot of guitar makers.

    I'm not saying you are wrong, and I don't much care either way. But I'm curious how you know this.
     
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