Classic Player Jazzmaster tone? Real or fake JM?

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  1. Thenewguy11

    Thenewguy11 TDPRI Member

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    Hi there

    I’m just wondering how much different the CPJM which has p90 like pickups is to a traditional Jazzmaster in terms of sound and tone?

    I’ve read different opinions ranging from “it’s not a real Jazzmaster, it’s a different guitar encased in a Jazzmaster’s body” to “it still sounds like a Jazzmaster but with more mid end and less treble.

    I guess I just want to ask if you guys reckon the CPJM pickups still give any resemblance tonally of a Jazzmaster or if the CP is in fact a completely different guitar that bears zero to a qualities of a Jazzmaster.

    kindly
     
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    Fretting out Friend of Leo's

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    If they are similar to the j mascis jazzmaster pickups then they are just p-90’s, completely different Pickup

    Nothing really jangles like real jazzmaster pickups

    The Seymour Duncan antiquity series are pretty good

    I don’t like the trem placement on the classic players either, completely different animal, although a pickup change is close enough to a “real” jazzmaster if it’s all you can afford

    The bridge being different isn’t really a big deal to me as I like both the original and tune o’ matic bridges

    You may get it and dig the pickups the way they are, they’re not bad just different
     
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    I have a CP Jazzmaster. I've played traditional Jazzmasters. I also have a Curtis Novak Jazzmaster pickup that I used to have installed in a Telecaster.

    Here's my take: there's a difference, yes, but the overall sound is still pretty JM-like. No it's not identical, as the CP has pickups that are more P90-style (though not quite exactly like a P90). But the scale length, body shape/weight, pickup location, the floating trem (even though on the CP it's moved), and the bridge all play a role in developing the sound of a guitar. And the CP has those JM traits.

    It'll sound somewhat different than a pure JM for sure. But it's in the family.
     
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    Put it this way: I've always planned to put that Novak pickup in my CP JM, but haven't because I like the sound of the pickups in there. I'll do it someday, and it'll probably be a slight upgrade and a nudge towards a traditional JM sound. But the stock pickups sound good, and not just like a typical P90 guitar.
     
  5. Thenewguy11

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    That’s what I’m after in this thread:

    just to know if the guitar is still considered as part of the JM family in terms of tone (still retains some Jazzmaster qualities tonally), or if it’s just a Jazzmaster by shape only (ie Jim Root JM or HH blacktop JMs)
     
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    Yep, I'd consider it part of the family, personally.
     
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