Class D 60W amp finished (yes SS)

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I don't see a ton of interest for SS amps on this forum, but I figured some might find this interesting. I got the idea for this after reading about these cheap little 60W power amps and all the positive reviews of people making pedal amps out of them. I was looking for a simple, light SS amp to put in my 15" cabinet and this seemed like it could work. The basic recipe is preamp of your choice + buffer + TPA3118= guitar amp.

I had been lusting for a JJ-150 pedal and lucked into getting a layout from someone who had cloned it. I first built it as a pedal and loved it so I figured it might actually work for this project. The buffer I chose is basically an Electro Harmonix LPB-1. There is a video of someone using this straight into a TPA amp with good results, and its a simple circuit with free layouts available.

The power supply is just a thrift store 19v laptop power supply with a cheap buck converter to convert it to 9v for the preamp. The chassis is 2 pieces of 2" aluminum angle screwed together. On a whim I added a "dying battery simulator" where the presence knob is thinking I can use this to kill the voltage to the preamp or possibly wire in a different compressor or limiter type circuit in the future. I wanted to wire it all up so it has a vintage tube amp look, so I used an eyelet board instead of pcb or veroboard. I am sure I have less than $100 bucks in this project and that includes and extra TPA amp and buck converter plus a bunch of other extras for future builds. It weighs about 3Lbs.

I put it together half not expecting it to even work, and boy was I wrong! It sounds absolutely amazing! The amp is super quiet and I like the sound as much as my other amps the 5f2-a and the tweed Deluxe. This was a less stressful build and so cheap I figured why not try it! It goes from very brite and clean to super dark and dirty with a huge range in between and it has a very natural sounding breakup. I know some will not believe, but that's OK! The presence knob is wired to a 10k pot which doesn't completely kill the voltage, but takes it way down into super saggy breakup. I love this effect on this preamp and I don't see a reason to change it at this point. I think this platform could be used to build any kind of amp someone would want, by just changing the preamp circuit.
 

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Here it is!
 

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I had builded an SS guitar amp (with class AB power amp and preamp can be use alone) and my main use of this is to use PlugIn guitar amp (like amplitube 5) and use it on this amplifier.
And a good speaker help a lot (a jensen C10Q in my case).
 

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Very nice.

I normally wouldn't be too interested in a SS build but it just so happens I'm working on a stereo SS, 1x8x10 cab for clean and acoustic playing.

I looked at Class D when I started to design the amp, but I was a little bit leery about using it, and didn't know if it would sound good for a guitar amp, seen as how most of the stuff I looked at was still using AB. I've since settled on an AB design, but I may come back and look at class D again. I really don't need that much power as I did some tests and the speakers get as loud as we need this amp to be at only 1W RMS when driven with a SS amp (crazy how little power it takes to drive a speaker to full volume). And the 8" is only rated to 20W, so I was going to do a 2x20W stereo. I'm sure I could find a class D board that would meet those specs as well.

One of the main drivers for this amp was to reduce weight, and I thought I was smart for going to a torroidal PT, but man, you sure can beat me on that with laptop supply!
 

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I have used effect pedals between guitar and D-class module.

A mini PA cabinet will be one future build. A microphone will need a pre amp. Already a voltage divider drive from loudspeaker output sound guite good.
 

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That’s very interesting! I was seriously wondering about getting something in the 60w or thereabouts range to plug my hotone British Invasion into, so I could get gig volume out of it as well as practice volume; i’m currently using a dead amp as a cab, and like the idea of doing something similar - thanks for the TPA3118 suggestion, that sounds like just what I need. Now to figure out how to also hook a driver for the old amp’s reverb tank in too…
 

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That’s very interesting! I was seriously wondering about getting something in the 60w or thereabouts range to plug my hotone British Invasion into, so I could get gig volume out of it as well as practice volume; i’m currently using a dead amp as a cab, and like the idea of doing something similar - thanks for the TPA3118 suggestion, that sounds like just what I need. Now to figure out how to also hook a driver for the old amp’s reverb tank in too…
If the tank is 8 ohm you could use a Class D amp to drive it also. That is the easy part...
 

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What? No reverb? ;)
I quit reverb when I started using the tweed amps. I got a little Quilter Superblock with reverb and realized I don't use it. I might add a tiny bit but really don't like it for my general playing. It is fun to play around with sometimes, but there are pedals for that. This amp really doesn't need it in my opinion. Reverb goes really well with a mid scooped sound. I may try to build something like that at some point. Any future builds I do will definitely be SS. I came on vacation and decided to move here!
thanks for the TPA3118 suggestion, that sounds like just what I need.
The only other thing I haven't mentioned about using these little boards is you need to use an ungrounded output jack. I am not sure why, but it will not work if it is grounded.

One of the main drivers for this amp was to reduce weight, and I thought I was smart for going to a torroidal PT, but man, you sure can beat me on that with laptop supply!
I feel like 19v is plenty of power and it will not stress any of the components. Shouldn't be hard to find or expensive. A bunch of people are trying to use 24v and a few are frying them. Some people seem to be having noise issues with some power supplies, possibly a grounding issue, but I had no issues.

Thanks for all the responses, I am glad some folks found this interesting!
 

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If anyone else is interested in TPA-XXX boards, from my research the ones that work best are the TPA3118, TPA3116, or the TPA3110.
For a small practice amp a TPA3110 and a 12V supply would probably be plenty. I am considering this with this preamp http://www.runoffgroove.com/professor.html I wanna see how close it is to my real 5F2-A
 
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The only other thing I haven't mentioned about using these little boards is you need to use an ungrounded output jack. I am not sure why, but it will not work if it is grounded.

The output of the class D amps is a "bridge-tied load" - there are actually two amps, one feeding the non-inverted signal to the speaker + and one feeding an inverted version to the - terminal. This doubles the output power of the amp. There are a few class D IC's that can be used such that it is not a bridge, but the circuit around the chip must be designed for it.
 

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Nice. I built a discrete class AB amp a while back that I love. I've thought about doing something class D ... low heat dissipation is a win.
 

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Few years ago I bought a cheap Bluetooth Stereo amp to listen music in workshop when building amps and running in loudspeakers but it did hiss way too much so I did return it. Then I bought a tiny D-class module 2×10W ~$15 which has Bluetooth and use leftover laptop power supply and it does not hiss and sound quite good.

Boxing being said to be problematic for electronics hobbyists and heres my proof. For testing I drilled five holes to small blue storage box for power jack and loudspeaker wires. Then epoxy dabs to corners where four nylon "studs" in corners come, positioned the module and wait for epoxy set. It has function there so I have decided to extend the testing :)PHOTO-2023-07-26-11-58-17.jpg
 

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Nice. I built a discrete class AB amp a while back that I love. I've thought about doing something class D ... low heat dissipation is a win.
And apparently very efficient, ideal for mobile rigs. 24v battery supply would be pretty easy to configure.
 

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This project just confirms the validity of an idea I've been kicking around... I have a cheap 1x10 + horn tweeter floor monitor that I'd like to power with a cheap Class D board. I plan to remove the horn and replace the speaker with something more guitar-friendly. Then it would be a powered guitar wedge. I'd drive it with my Joyo American Sound as the main tone, with other pedals adding color when needed.

Great project! Oh, and the chassis design is GENIUS.
 

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This project just confirms the validity of an idea I've been kicking around... I have a cheap 1x10 + horn tweeter floor monitor that I'd like to power with a cheap Class D board. I plan to remove the horn and replace the speaker with something more guitar-friendly. Then it would be a powered guitar wedge. I'd drive it with my Joyo American Sound as the main tone, with other pedals adding color when needed.

Great project! Oh, and the chassis design is GENIUS.
Here is a similar amp project I bookmarked a while ago that is well thought out.
I was about to give up on an easy solution for the chassis when I stumbled upon the 2" aluminum angle at Home Depot. I have heard the Joyo preamp pedals work great in front of these Class D amps.
 

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I have a few of those in a drawer I'd like to try out too. Just curious for anyone who has done testing, what is the input sensitivity of the class D amp? I suppose it may depend on the power supply voltage. I wouldn't want to overload a class D input, but apparently the 9V preamp circuits are compatible.
 
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