Chrome covers for Modern Player P90s - will they alter the sound?

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  1. VerySlowHand

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    I just bought a Modern Player Thinline with P90s. The only thing I'm going to consider changing - purely cosmetic - is the black plastic pickup covers (I have the sunburst with parchment pickguard).
    • Will fitting chrome plated nickel covers alter the sound?
    • If 'yes' please expand.
    I could get chrome coloured plastic ones, but if I'm stuck with plastic I'd rather go for ivory, rather than have pretend metal ones.

    Thanks!
     
  2. jvin248

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    The metal covers will reduce noise, especially if you sit near computer equipment, CFL lightbulbs and so on for recording clean.
    If you shielded all your guitar cavities you will notice it more with/without covers. But check you have a shielded cable from the control cavity to the output jack rather than the usual 'two conductor' as that is a big source of noise on its own (otherwise we'd use plain two wires from the jack to the amp).

    Do a search on 'Antigua' user in the forum for analysis of cover materials. Some covers are better than others, some covers darken your pickup a lot, and it's a gamble or an opportunity to experiment. If you have covers that darken the pickup you can swap volume pot for higher kohm measured values and capacitors to brighten the circuit up to compensate for the covers.

    I'd suggest getting the cream covers and use aluminum shielding tape on the inside of them to cut noise.

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    This is probably best said with a YMMV because we all hear differently and play different guitars and amps but in general any metal cover will impact the pickups tonality with some metals more than others.

    Actually the plastic chromed ones should impact tone the least followed by high quality nickel silver covers. Brass or other metals will impact tonality the most. So take that for what it's worth when you decide.
     
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    Thanks guys. The guitar is so quiet you'd think the pups were humbuckers - so that's not an issue. The beauty of a simple mod like this is that it's fairly inexpensive and easily reversible. There's a place in Germany that has chrome plated nickel covers, for about $20.00 each.

    'Safe' options, sound-wise (and aesthetically) are to grow to like black on parchment, buy some ivory pickup covers, or buy a three-ply black pickguard (4-6 weeks lead time). Option one costs nothing. Option 2 about $15.00 and Option 3 close to $50.00.

    I'm glad that these trivial things are all I can think of to do with this guitar... relatively inconsequential tinkering during the winter months.
     
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    There's a guy on here that has done exactly that - put chrome covers on his P90 modern player tele. Don't think I made any difference sound wise. I kept the black plastic, but changed the scratchplate to black. It looks awesome. These are very under rated guitars, they sound brilliant, look brilliant, and play brilliant.
     
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    Just confirming what has already been said. I have first-hand experience of the effect of chrome-plated brass covers on a set of SD Jazz. They killed the top end., I would never use that type of full cover on anything, ever, again.
     
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    diff'rent, but in the same exact vein - this is why i gave up on those "vintage" chromed brass tele neck covers in favor of thin nickel-silver covers ... most folks don't need their tele to do double duty as a bass guitar. :lol:
     
  10. VerySlowHand

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    I might do that too, but where did you get the black pickguard? The only place in the UK I can find is WD Music and it's a 4-5 week wait for custom cutting.

    I agree with the other bit - I'm not an expert, but I prefer mine, in almost every single way, to every Tele I've ever had - which includes a '52 Reissue, a Classic 60s and a Baja.
     
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    I did get it from an ebay supplier in the US, I thought it was WD music, I'll check and get back to you. It was only a 2 week turn around and that was over Christmas last year. The only pain in the arse was they sent it US mail, which meant I had to pay £12 duty on it. I think overall the scratchplate cost £35. It's worth it because at the end of the day, that is just too much white, and it does make it look very cool.

    You know what, I also prefer it over the Baja that I had and subsequently sold because I felt the thinline outperformed it on every level. It's also turned into my number 1 songwriting guitar, as it speaks to me, unlike my much more expensive Les paul. I'd wanted a thinline, not sure why, but I did. I tried the fender 72, and the squier, and tried out the modern player as a means just to tell me how good the 72 was, because frankly I really wasn't feeling it. But this cheap white luminous thing utterly blew me away. It had such great sustain, and a totally different sound to all my other guitars. Some people on here complain that the pick ups are too dark and that you have to change the pots, but to my ears it's perfect, and scratchplate apart, I wouldn't change a thing
     
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    Yes it's WD music, $35 for the scratchplate. Product code TEMP 2503
     
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    Thanks buddy. After seeing this one I'm actually growing to like the parchment pickguard... getting used to the goofyness. It's the contrast between the black pup covers and the parchment that I'm still not sure about. Think I'll start with nickel covers and see what happens.


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