Cheaper and better pedal alternatives for me.

[mRtINY]

What do you guys use for delays and reverb?

I have two boards. On one board there is a Source Audio Nemisis. On the other board (the big one) there's a Deluxe Memory Boy and a Catalinbread Echorec. When I just take a couple pedals it's either the Rubberneck or the Faux Tape Echo....

Reverb is usually a spring unit in an amp. But, I have the HOF on one board.

 

[scooteraz]

I’m not sure that now that you have a pedal board that there is a way for you to end up with less money in the replacement, unless you are willing to lose functions. As others have noted, when yours sell off your existing and then purchase replacements, you may not actually a whole lot less money in it. Almost certainly, it won’t sound better; you have some pretty decent pedals there.

 

[ravindave_3600]

Hello, Kevin, it's nice to meet you. Welcome to the US and Chicago, which is known to sometimes be colder than Indonesia. I hope you survived the polar blast.

It's tempting to buy the new, best, coolest gear but you're getting lots of good advice in this thread.

1. You have good pedals covering a wide range of sounds that can't be replaced at a reasonable cost.
2. Strymon is popular but not better; it's flexible but not needed.
3. Phasers, Octavers, Flangers? They can be fun, but aren't common in worship and definitely not needed.
4. Your amp is at least as important as your pedals (and maybe your guitar), so make sure it sounds as good as you can afford (even if you're going direct).

I like what SBClose said earlier: When it comes to worship, "Bring the musician you and God have built." Without your heart and skill all the gear in the world is just extra weight.

 

[cottontails1959]

Hey Kevin, in support of what many others have said, you've got good pedals for a wide range of sounds.

My experience (which may be very different than others) ... When I first started playing with a worship team (contemporary Christian) I had eight pedals that, by the end of my first year was down to five, and now after three years is down to three or four. What I use is depends on the context of the music, the sound system and the band makeup. It took a long time for me to admit that the "cool" sounds I was making in a 10 x 10 x 8' practice room sounded nothing like our 60 x 80 x 15' sanctuary; and my layered effects just muddied up the sound of our four-piece + vocals band (FWIW, since we go direct to PA, if I practice using in-ear monitors, I get a better idea of how I'm going to sound in church).

Now I play through an Archer Ikon (Tumnus-type OD) > Strymon DECO (tape saturation) > EQD Dispatch Master (delay + reverb). The DECO and Dispatch Master are always on, but on low settings ... richer tone and slap-back delay. I can get some mild flanging out of the DECO, which is pretty useful. If I need explicit delay I add in a Red Witch Violetta (similar to the MXR CC delay).

"Bring the musician you and God have built." ... SBClose

 

[ravindave_3600]

I'd be happy to lead worship with just these.

And it would be fine.

 

[Ascension]

its not about WHAT you have, The Great One Above does not care about that.
THAT you are there and doing the best you can is the only thing that counts for Him

maybe working on your playing techniques, learn to tweak those pedals to the max and sounds can come you did not even know off.

Let Him use you and don't let the uncertainty about hardware stand in His way.

THIS! I have walked away from some of the largest worship site as of the last few months because of the arrogance of it all. Watch those Paul Baloche videos those guys are not using a bunch of effects all the time nor are they caught up in cork sniffing gear worship. They are dedicated to the art of worship they can play like crazy but lay back and serve the song and the whole rather than feed their egos. There is MUCH wisdom in those videos and few will ever really get it.
As far as effects this was my Worship rig for years and I played in front of several thousand every Sunday with it.

Live clip
https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=4939016

 

[hopdybob]

THIS! I have walked away from some of the largest worship site as of the last few months because of the arrogance of it all. Watch those Paul Baloche videos those guys are not using a bunch of effects all the time nor are they caught up in cork sniffing gear worship. They are dedicated to the art of worship they can play like crazy but lay back and serve the song and the whole rather than feed their egos. There is MUCH wisdom in those videos and few will ever really get it.
As far as effects this was my Worship rig for years and I played in front of several thousand every Sunday with it.
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Live clip
https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=4939016

a long time ago there was a fast growing community in my neighborhood and like so many others they started small , including people and gear on the stage to support the community in singing.
drum, keyboard, acoustic guitar, flute, bugel/horn and a worship leader op front. who could play an instrument did what he could.
and the community sang and you could experience that we were one.

but the community grew and the 2 services could not handle all the people so they moved to another building.
but than all had to be professionalized.
big stage, camera's, big screens, pro audio video, pro band and choir etc.
and yes, it sounded and looked very good, but the community lost there function.
we got entertain t
so our input off stage was less and there was no room anymore for improvisation, that The Spirit maybe wanted to follow another program in the service.
we didn't sing with all our heart anymore, music was in the house but the Spirit left the building.

There is a very beautifull story about the farmer that was not well educated about G'ds Word and did not understand a lot about it but 3 time a day proclaimed the Jewish alfabet with all his respect and sincerity.
because one thing he knew, with every letter of the alfabet, G'd made the world to be.
then there was someone who criticize him not doing his best to learn the propper prayers so the farmer stopt, feeling not good enough.

but the person that criticized him got a visit that night from G'd Himself who told him to go to the farmer and apologize to him and ask him to start proclaiming the Jewish alfabet again because G'd had mist them 3 time a day
being so sincere.
G'd had to hear so much prayers that where more a habit, even thought well proclaimed but without the heart, He mist the wholeheartedly proclamation so much.

it ain't what you do its the way that you do it in everything you do ore don't

 

[JuneauMike]

I use one of these, and I darn sure would bring it with me.

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LOL. You stack that pedal with one of these babies, run the shame at 9 o'clock and dime the innocence, and your worship experience will be elevated to the next level, guaranteed.


Or not, whatever. The sound guy will probably screw it up anyway. Or the bass player will miss his mark. Or the .....

 

[mRtINY]

Rane used to make a talent gate - better not take one of those to church....

 

[CapnCrunch]

Rane used to make a talent gate - better not take one of those to church....

Doesn't JHS make one of those? I think they're called the "Eye of the Needle".

 

[CapnCrunch]

LOL. You stack that pedal with one of these babies, run the shame at 9 o'clock and dime the innocence, and your worship experience will be elevated to the next level, guaranteed.

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Or not, whatever. The sound guy will probably screw it up anyway. Or the bass player will miss his mark. Or the .....

Set the diversion on Drummer and you're all set

 

[Grenville]

Kevin, your pedal selection is very good and your guitar is a nice one too.

The Yamaha THR10 amp is good for practice at home, but is it good for your use at church? Does it plug into the mixer so it is heard through the PA/foldback? If not, maybe think about an amp for live use, like a Boss Katana or Vox Pathfinder 15R.

Or, if the church has a good monitoring/foldback setup perhaps a Strymon Iridium would be good - it will simulate an amp and you plug it into the PA, and you'll hear your playing with the church band via foldback/monitoring.

All the best with your journey.

 

[scooteraz]

LOL. You stack that pedal with one of these babies, run the shame at 9 o'clock and dime the innocence, and your worship experience will be elevated to the next level, guaranteed.

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Or not, whatever. The sound guy will probably screw it up anyway. Or the bass player will miss his mark. Or the .....

Set the diversion on Drummer and you're all set

I ordered one of those Blame Shifters, but got the ScapeGoat pedal instead. The one where the Shame and Guilt are dimed, and the diversion is “yourself” no matter where the controls are set....

 

[JuneauMike]

I ordered one of those Blame Shifters, but got the ScapeGoat pedal instead. The one where the Shame and Guilt are dimed, and the diversion is “yourself” no matter where the controls are set....

Oh right, the Boss Catholicismizer. That's ok, you can still send it to JHS to mod for you. It's $80 and they'll even give you a couple of free stickers and a catalog of their T-shirts. It kills the resale value, but at least then you've got a workable excuse going forward.

Think of it as a moderately priced indulgence.

 

[scooteraz]

Oh right, the Boss Catholicismizer. That's ok, you can still send it to JHS to mod for you. It's $80 and they'll even give you a couple of free stickers and a catalog of their T-shirts. It kills the resale value, but at least then you've got a workable excuse going forward.

Think of it as a moderately priced indulgence.

Uhhhhh, I’m Lutheran...I think ole Martin had some 95 things to say about such pedals...I just hope they aren’t nailed to my head....

 

[soundchaser59]

OK.. regarding my earlier post and the thanks for the smile.
I saw the pedal board, then I saw the amp and figured the post was a subtle joke.

If it wasn't a joke, I apologize.

Regarding the pedals and the interest in something less expensive; once you sell off what you have (probably at a loss) and replace it with cheaper stuff that might sound close but won't be as good in the long run, will the cash you have left buy more than a decent meal at your favorite restaurant?

I'd venture to say no.

You have a good set up. Sounding "better" becomes pretty subjective once the basics are in place.

The only pedal on that board I would replace is that Boss RV6. The other pedals are great, you won't get anything better. You certainly won't get better that is cheaper. That question right there is the only reason I didn't want to post here as I too thought this was a joke.