Cheap but quality tube amps that will be collectors one day?

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  1. KeepItSimpleTele

    KeepItSimpleTele TDPRI Member

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    I am always looking for good tube amp gems...but always short on cash. They are probably related.

    Anyways...just looking at all tube guitar amps that can be had for short money currently. Not considering specialty boutique low production number amps. What do you think will likely become classics and accrue in value over time?

    My thoughts jump to:

    -Orange Tiny Terror (out of prduction)
    -Vox Night Train (good tones, massively over built transformers).
    -Traynor Dark Horse DH-15 (better than blues jr blackface tones).
    -Peavey Classics (literally any of this series bought used).
    -Marshall Class 5 (uk built).

    What are people’s thoughts on a cheap current purchase in tube tone that will likely not be throwing money away in the long run?
     
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    VHT special 6 Ultra
     
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    VHT Special 6, VHT Special 12/20
     
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    Bugera, I have 3.

     
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    I didn’t get the memo on the VHT special 6 somehow. Hand wired, eyelet board, all those cab out options. Wow.

    Do these just take the 6v6 output tubes?
     
  6. Dacious

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    Almost none of the amps mentioned so far will ever be collected. Too many and mostly not revolutionary even if value for money. Most bottom dollar amps will be landfill. Even the Airline and Silvertone and old Valco-made amps despite being handwired are not worth much. Ditto the Gibsons even though in many cases they are near-identical to many Fender in appearance, circuit and performance.

    Things like Bugeras will end up in landfill. Too many of them and uneconomical to repair. The handwired VHTs may become minor cult amps. But unless someone like a Jack White uses one, probably not.

    It's like - there's tons of old Silvertone/Harmony/Danelectro guitars and prevcious few are worth even high 3 figures.

    Only certain models like the DC59 associated with an artist. Even then, barely 4 figures.

    Old Fenders are worth lots because they were the pacesetters of the industry and recognised as such. To be serious, you had theto have a Fender. Until you didn't. The rest were imitators or parallel evolution that wasn't as successful even if warranted like Magnatones or Ampegs.

    When Fender stopped innovating in the CBS era that opened the door to Marshall, Mesa and others as in guitars.

    Not all old Fenders are worth a lot. There's plenty of grey porridge guitars and amps. Being rare isn't the only determinant of value.
     
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    Nice try :)
     
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    I have (my small amp dep.):

    Blackheart little Giant
    VOX AC4 head
    Fender Blues jr. 3 (great in "TWIN" mode)
    VHT special 6
    Fender Vaporizer
    Fender Superchamp XD head
    Peavey Classic 30

    the Peavey would be my first choice...very versatile,great clean and od tone (2 ch), loves pedals...
     
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    Mad Kiwi Friend of Leo's

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    I have some of the amps you mention.

    I seriousley dont believe they will ever be collector amps.

    I seriousley dont believe much of anything these days will be.

    Things are produced in much larger numbers than they were in the collectable "heyday".

    The collectable "Heyday" was a development and innovative period, the music, the equipment and the techniques using it all.....

    I hope to be wrong but can't see it. Be vigilant with what you buy, buy well and enjoy for what they are.

    IF ......they become collectable it will be by fluke more than design.

    IMO.
     
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    Why is anybody going to look twice at any of those amps once the Baby Boomers start dyeing off and flood the market with all of the choice vintage stuff…
     
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    Buy it, use it, sell it. Consider you’ve hired it for the period and move on. Everything is heading towards lease these days. If you’ve got the money to buy up front you save on the monthly cost.
     
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    Fender vaporizer is a nice amp. Fender pro Junior iv also.
     
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    Get a Fender SF. None of those amps are worth the particle board their cabs are made from. Not for the long haul. Why not get one of the best tube amps ever made for well under a grand, and have it the rest of your life?
     
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    The Danelectro amp-in-case is collectible despite the quality being the pits.

    Supro/Gretsch amps are collectible. I have no doubt the Supro reissues are better quality, and the prices are through the roof.
     
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    Wait... are you all saying my Boss Katana isn't going to be collectible? :eek:
     
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    I saw Pawn Stars one time and Rick told the person trying to sell him something, "Just because it's rare doesn't mean it's valuable."
     
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    Maybe the fender Greta
     
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    I think the last of the 'collectible' amps out there are the original Marshall JCM800's. Anything Fender that is original Silverface or earlier has similar collectibility, but nothing newer will really have the same appeal. I hate to say it but the main reason for this opinion is that the guitar is no longer the influential factor in music. In the 50's, 60's, 70's, and 80's the guitar was way more influential on the sounds that bands/musicians were creating.

    I hope and pray that someday the guitar has a renaissance, but until then all the magic tones we hear are based or rooted in sounds of previous eras. I certainly still love them though! :)
     
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