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Changing bent steel saddles on American Standards

Discussion in 'Tele-Technical' started by JohnK24, Oct 12, 2014.

  1. JohnK24

    JohnK24 Friend of Leo's

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    you are correct - replace as you desire.
     
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    I don't think these will fit as the adjustment screw is off-center. I think you can get third party replacement saddles though.
     
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    Incorrect!!!.Bigsnaketex

    Those (pre 2008) saddle mounting screws are offset from the saddle centre and thus the string through holes in the body. They will skew the strings to one side if you use them on a post 2008 American standard bridge.
     
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    You are gonna' need the intonation screws centered on the saddles.
    Spacing is 2 & 1/16".
     
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    Then they're incorrect on mine that I replaced them on. They lined up just fine even though the originals were offset.
     
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    I guess the string tension must pull the saddles around so they are not sitting at right angles to the rear of the bridge plate.
     
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    The new stamped saddles sound better (yes... yes they do), so why would you change them? Merely for looks?
     
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    ^^^^
    Yes for what it's worth I have no problem with any aspect of the bent steel saddles on my 2008 American Standard.
     
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    Keep in mind, there are 2 styles of the block style saddles - the ones you linked have the screw offset to one side of the body and they will only work on a bridge drilled for saddles with an offset intonation screw. Yopu can get others that use a screw in the center and will replace saddles with a screw in the center.

    If what you mean by "bent steel saddles" is Fender vintage style saddles like these, you will need to replace them with saddles that have the attachment/intonation screw in the center - NOT the ones you linked to.
     
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    ^^^^^^^

    Is there some sort of echo in this thread.? :confused:
     
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    I just bought a 2014 American Standard HH. I own other Strat's and Tele's that have the block saddles. I was going to change out the stamped saddles on this new Tele because there is no groove in the saddle to keep the string centered. In my mind if I'm bending a note the string is going to slide across the saddle. If it does not return to where is started the tuning on that string will be off. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. The whole purpose of a fixed bridge is tuning stability. I don't know how that can be achieved with a stamped saddle.
     
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    There are two mindsets on that.

    The string cam easily move on the smooth saddles reducing string stretching.

    The slotted saddles let the string sit in eactly the same place the whole time preventing the string from sitting in the wrong place which hurts tuning.

    6 of one mind. Half dozen of the other
     
  15. KevinB

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    I have Teles with (three) plain saddles and Strats with plain bent steel saddles. Even when I bend notes the string tension keeps the strings from moving. I certainly have no tuning issues with them.
     
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