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Champion 600 speaker upgrade, 6'' or 8''?

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by BoogerRooger, Jan 5, 2011.

  1. BoogerRooger

    BoogerRooger Poster Extraordinaire

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    I'm thinking of doing some upgrades on my Champion 600.

    Is it worth the extra expense and work to fit an 8'' speaker into the existing cab, or would a better 6'' one do the job?
     
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    Anything would be better than the cheapass car stereo speaker that it comes with. I put in a 50's Utah from a Moviola that sounds killer. If you can find an old P6T Jensen on eBay that would kill as well.
     
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    I agree with Fezz. I have had both in mine. A nice6" Alnico from an old phono, and currently an 8" old Jensen C-850 from the 60s. They both sound better that the stock speaker. A good 6 in this amp is not that much less than an 8. One reason I think is because the cabinet is rather small and acoustics are limited.
     
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    I'm a big fan of more real estate on the baffle. I don't think it's so much having a bigger cabinet(since it's an open back), it's the sounding board-like qualities of the bigger baffle. Of course to have a bigger baffle means bigger cab...:lol:
     
  5. BoogerRooger

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    I like the portability and style of the cab. But I could also build a seperate cab to plug into, hmmm.....
     
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    I added an extra speaker out to mine just for that purpose!
     
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    I agree to some extent on baffle size. However I strongly believe that a proper ratio of cabinet size and shape to the speaker is more important. Too large a cabinet for a speaker is not conducive to the best sound even if it gives you more baffle area. That's just me though.
     
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    Aww it's all just spitballin'. If it sounds good it is good. If it don't sound good, well, you know...:lol:
     
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    You got that. After thinking about it for a few minutes, The larger baffle afforded the 6" speaker as to the diminished baffle area with an 8" speaker could be a reason that a well made 6" speaker is about the same as an 8" replacement. :)
    Check out my ptp type rebuild of the champ 600 in the amp owners section.
     
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    I will!
     
  11. bdgregory

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    I would replace the stock speaker with a plug compatible 6", but rather than spend the effort to cram an 8" in there, I would install a jack that's more accessible that the one buried inside. Then get a good 12" cab to sit it on top of for when you want more volume. It sounds pretty good driving a 12".
     
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    I just replaced the Stock tubes in mine with a set of JJ's and that was a big improvement!

    Speaker is next, I'm thinking a Weber 6" at the moment....
     
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    Look in these for great 6" speakers:

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  14. First Time Tele

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    I lifted the R19 in my 600 and the 6" stock speaker sounded awful:mad:. However I hooked it up to my Pathfinder 15r speaker and it sounds great lots of volume and nice breakup.:cool: I hooked up a dano cool cat drive pedal and it was crunchy and nasty with my mexi-tele!:twisted: I would like to leave the R19 lifted, so I am looking for an 8" speaker for mine!:p
     
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