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CBS Teles

Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by balston11, Apr 29, 2021.

  1. SRBMusic

    SRBMusic TDPRI Member Silver Supporter

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    I know very little about Tele history and specs, so I can’t comment on the content. That said, I really enjoyed the read, and I finally am able to identify and get (apparently) accurate information on what I now know is my ‘83 Telecaster Standard. Thanks!
     
  2. balston11

    balston11 Tele-Meister

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    Thanks to all who have helped so far now launched to the general public and I will no doubt get emails from people with information and I will share anything interesting here. Anything else anyone has to add let me know
     
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    blue metalflake Doctor of Teleocity

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    Nice piece of work. I believe the black neck plate gasket appeared for the first time in early ‘73
     
  4. balston11

    balston11 Tele-Meister

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    Thanks As I am sure you know you are right I have checked out pictures of 1973 Teles and they have the gasket page amended
     
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    Mjea80 Tele-Meister

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    Nice job! Fretboard and options are accurate and will be very helpful for somebody trying to date an old Tele.

    My Tele has a Sept 67’ maple cap neck with CBS logo.
     
  6. Tele-friend

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    Nice job!
    I would like to ask a question about Telecaster Deluxe. Mine is from '74, my avatar picture. Did all Deluxes have a 7.25 fingerboard radius, like you say? The info I have is confusing, because some claim that the radius was 9.5.
     
  7. TeleTex82

    TeleTex82 Friend of Leo's

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    Prior to 65 would they alternate between brass and steel?
     
  8. Nick Fanis

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    No ,brass ended in 54.
    After 54 saddles were always steel,smooth,threaded,slotted
     
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  9. TeleTex82

    TeleTex82 Friend of Leo's

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    Oh gotcha. As much as I love telecasters I am woefully uninformed when it comes to vintage specs.
     
  10. balston11

    balston11 Tele-Meister

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    Its hard to be sure about this I have seen some references to the deluxe having a 9.5" radius. I have seen several references to 7.25" radius and it does seem a bit early for the 9.5" radius which I thought was around the 1980s Perhaps someone here can say for definite
     
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    Hari Seldon Tele-Meister

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  13. Hari Seldon

    Hari Seldon Tele-Meister

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    Found a source.
    From "Six decades of the Telecaster" by Tony Bacon:
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    (Dan Smith, Bill Schultz - new Fender managers in the 80s)
     
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  14. John C

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    The old catalogs just say "flat radius". I have read a few places - unconfirmed type sources - that it was actually a 12" radius on the Tele Deluxe.

    And I can confirm that the serial number on the '52 Reissues was on the bridge plate; those little stickers from the CBS era are supposed to duplicate the serial number found elsewhere on the guitar. That being said the '52 Reissues serial numbers were on the 3-saddle bridge installed at the factory, but they also shipped with a 6-saddle vintage bridge in the case, and the 6-saddle bridge plate does not have the serial number on it.
     
  15. balston11

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    The 12" radius came in around 1982 and much fuss was made in the catalogues so I think it's unlikely the deluxe had that radius but I can't be sure
     
  16. John C

    John C Friend of Leo's

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    As I said I've seen a few non-verified sources that the 1972-1981 Deluxes were 12" radius; the 1972 catalog just says "flatter radius".

    Now for sure the 1983-84 Standards and Elites were 12" radius.
     
  17. balston11

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    Absolutely the 1983 catalogues are full of the benefits of the 12" radius . I am going to have to do more digging on the Deluxe
     
  18. John C

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    Really we might have to find some owners with originals that haven't been refretted and get them to measure them. I have done some digging but haven't found a USA catalog that says what the radius is other than "flatter".
     
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    George didn't like his show-stopping rosewood tele? I know he gave it away, but I assumed that was just a thing rock stars did, e.g., Joe Walsh giving a guitar to Townsend. Too heavy?
     
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    Yes. This is an important omission. The factory Bigsby models started in 1967.

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