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CBD Oil? Or Snake Oil?

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Texicaster, Aug 15, 2019.

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  1. srvbluezz

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    I don't mean to offend anyone...if it works for you than more power to you. I'm just a dumb meathead giving some broscience.
     
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    I don't mean this to be argumentative... In fact I'm looking for information from each side of the coin. With that said, for those who are saying CBD is snake oil, what leads you to say that? Personal experience? An acquaintance who had no results? Published journal articles? Medical professional's advice? Something else?

    I said earlier that I got results, but am I fooling myself? I really do want to hear your input.
     
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  3. Shango66

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    Buddy o mine recently started taking it for anxiousness and work related injury.
    He’s never been happier imo.
     
  4. getbent

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    my mil has parkinson's and has a terrible time sleeping and often just shuffles and paces and is nervous... I got her some cbd sodas (at her request) the goal was that drinking the soda would calm and soothe her... she was concerned about it, but wanted to do it. So, we split a can... within a little while... I felt relaxed and calm and was surprised and pleased.

    My mother in law reported that she did not like the effect of the drink as it made her sleep and just kind of 'relaxed'....

    I nodded and smiled and kept the rest for myself...

    There is a lot going on in the emerging market, probably some very good companies and some not so good... so, the reported results may be scattered... but maybe not more than, say, flonase which some of my friends say has make their lives MUCH better (for treating allergies) where for me, it made me ill.

    one size does not fit all... and, yes, I'd note that the results my MIL wanted, she got, and yet, she did not like the effect. That is because she is kind of disagreeable to almost everything... but, the sodas help me listen to her disconcert!
     
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    A friend's daycare provider has a kid with birth defect issues that caused serious seizures. CBD has been very effective.
     
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    Some research is slowly emerging. But like all health and medical fads, a lot of money will be spent and earned, based largely on anecdotal data, before the dust settles and any useful info appears.

    Results on childhood seizure disorders is the most promising, IMO. In part, because that’s not a population and disorder that is very susceptible to response to placebo.

    Anxiety, OTOH, by definition, would be the most susceptible to response to placebo. Good to remember, considering the financial cost of CBD treatment, as well as the medical and psychological risks of long term benzodiazepine treatment.

    That’s all I’m gonna say on that.
     
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    I use a topical CDB balm called Dragons Blend for joint pain at the elbow, fingers and shoulder, works really well.
     
  8. Fred Rogers

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    I didn't notice it doing much for pain, but it seems to help with my anxiety and depression. It relaxes me so I can get to sleep.
     
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  9. ronzhd

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    Was recently in Colorado and tried some of the CBD oil, didn't work for me. Had some buddies with me who swore by it. I don't know if its psychosomatic or what. Now IMHOP, THC is the real deal medically speaking. Ok, just sayin....
     
  10. DrPepper

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    IMHO, The rules are written in pencil around here,,,
     
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  11. Old Deaf Roadie

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    Every day for back pain after 30+ years of moving amp & dimmer racks. It works for me.
     
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    The thing to understand is that CBD, just like THC, has varying effects on people's physiology. Some people feel no, or very little effect, while others have a very pronounced effect. My wife and I both experience a calming, relaxing effect, and sleep better on CBD. My wife has fibromyalgia and it mitigates the pain somewhat. Some of our friends and family have tried it and felt nothing.
    Your experience will depend on your tolerance level and body reaction.
     
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    I'm honestly without a strong opinion on CBD, I'm very willing to try it, particularly for my poor sleeping. Also, I'm NOT making any judgement on your results....if something works for you that's great.
    But I have to say, that it's been pretty well proven that the placebo effect (of ALMOST anything) can be very effective. That's why when any drug or treatment is being evaluated, they have to use double-blind groups with some people NOT getting the treatment, just to assure accurate results. In some cases, the group getting a placebo has as good, if not better, outcomes.
    For those who are happy with their CBD results, I say more power to you....as long as there are no dangerous side effects, the only downside might be to your pocketbook.
    EDIT....see Mike H's post above. I agree 100%.
     
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    I agree, placebo effect can be strong, which is why I want to question whether my "scientific sample of 1" is skewed. The stuff is expensive enough that I don't want to waste $$ if it's bogus. So far I think it's real, but I'm open to other opinions.
     
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    Have an older dog on the CBD oil for panic attacks and seems to help but nothing dramatic. As someone said above...kinda like aspirin. As far as "the other" being more effective...hmmm, I'd have to say that it's...errr...What was the original question?...Did you see my glasses?..."
     
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    And who ate the last of the chips and brownies!???? ;)
     
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  17. Texicaster

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    Yea I was curious for my dog too!

    My bit of research there claimed not enough studies so hold off. Local vet no opinion so far.

    Well sounds like it could be worth a $50 gamble.....

    Any links to legit studies or resources with pros and cons?

    Thanks,

    TEX
     
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    Yes...I've seen a lifetime of the placebo effect, confirmation bias and outright denial of facts. As long as no one gets hurt, no one else's rights are infringed and it's legal, then how ever the relief comes seems OK. But I certainly agree that your own body chemistry etc. probably does play a big part.

    I think that research will catch up and be able to pin point more closely the mechanisms that represent effective treatment and those that may be just a placebo reaction.
     
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  19. Fiesta Red

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    I’ve used it, for help in sleeping, pain relief and relaxation.

    No buzz, no high. I don’t want those effects.

    Helps greatly for relaxation and deeper/quicker sleep. It made me drowsy if I was sitting still, but not groggy if I kept on moving. (That’s a good thing).

    Helps pretty well for some chronic arthritis pain I’ve dealt with off and on for several years.
     
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    Hey everyone,

    We're going to close this thread. Those of you who still desire to have a conversation about this can start a private "thread" using the inbox/conversation feature of the website. And actually, you can add as many people as you want to it. It's kind of a good feature for this type of discussion actually, and I don't think many people here take advantage of it. You just start a new PM like you would any other private message, but you can add any number of people to it. The only disadvantage is that you can't quote one another or Like message.

    -TGT
     
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