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Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by Psyclone, Feb 13, 2011.
I recently purchased the '65 Elitist and I love it, it has the fit and finish of my Fender Custom Shop guitars.
Here's a pic when I first got it, sorry for the flash.
Oh, and for me it is a Beatles thing.
I'm sure there will be more!
Been gasin' for a Casino for some time now. Played a bunch of regular MIC Casinos and a couple of 50th Anni's but just couldn't pull the trigger...just something lacking overall (the 50th Anni did sound really good though). Love to get my hands on an Elitist however, made in the Terada factory where they make the Pro Line Gretsches which are just killer beautifully made guitars.
I recommend to find a MIK Casino. The ones that were made in Peerless (I've owned two myself) are generally great guitars and something else than the new MIC ones. The new ones are good (especially the Lennon models) but as you say they lack something.
i got one of the new '61 50th Anniversary Tributes about a month ago, I can date it because I used the GC Columbus Day 15% off coupon. Really nice guitar, especially for the money. Nicely made and finished. Needed a little setup work, but not that much. Mostly it needed the bridge pickup to be raised quite a bit. A trip to staples for a cheap mousepad and a little work cutting it up and using it to shim the pickup up and that was that. Cool guitar, sounds great, fun to play.
One thing to be aware of with the new models, the nut width is wider on some, the '61 is one of the wider ones, I forget which is which with the other ones, but you can get the specs on the web if it's important to you.
How can you tell one is Korean made compared to the Chinese made ones?
Good question! If you don't have them side by side it's impossible I guess. I have had two MIK Peerless so I know them pretty well and I have tried about three MIC Casinos (2 regular and 1 "Inspired by John Lennon"). The MIK:s both felt more "expensive" and they should since they were more expensive back in 1999 (about the double price tag from now). That said, I've heard people complain about their MIK Casinos as well so I may have been lucky. But the overall verdict seems to be that the ones who came out of the Peerless factory are the best ones next to the elitists.
This is what I've found to be the bigger differences; The wood on the MIK:s are more resonant, the pickups not so muddy/dark when set to rhythm, the frets are more even and the lacquer feels "better". Like I said above - a more "expensive" feel.
But as always, the differences in quality can be big from guitar to guitar and the MIC are nice instruments and the Lennon model can easily compete with the best MIK IMHO. But it's made in a different way than the regular ones and
I've even read that it's actually made in Korea(!) together with Epiphones more expensive models.
The way to tell MIK from MIC, asking from the MICs typically saying it somewhere on the guitar, is via the serial number.
The Guitar Dater Project does a decent job of dating most major brand guitars.
It's not always perfect, but it's pretty good.
I have a Peerless (Korea) Casino and I love it!
Got a chance to grab some pics of my 61 50th Anniversary
If I can pass along a little GAS, I've done my work here!
Very nice, I like it. I'm not a big fan of the long Epi headstocks. I really like the short version on thea Anniversary models.
My nephew plays one. It lived at my house for a week or so and I fell in love with it. I told him if he ever wants to sell it, I'll buy it.
P.S. I found it frustrating to watch the Beatles live in Japan. The mics kept shifting on them while they were singing. Were there no roadies? Couldn't Paul and/or John tighten those damn things down.
Good advice on the MIK Casino from Century Child...thank you. Scored a real nice sunburst Epi Casino today w/OHSC. According to the serial # it's an '02 built in Korea by Peerless. Guitar is in immaculate condition (no fretwear,scratches, etc). Plays great with low action and sounds real nice so far. The only glitch I have found is the 10th fret is high on the bass side and treble side and fine in the middle (causing the low e and high e and b strings to buzz when fretted at the 8th fret). Otherwise it plays buzzfree w/ nice low action even w/ the old funky strings it came with. I'll post some pictures next chance I get. I think I'll take it to a tech to sort out the high fret...I'm a little afraid to mess with it myself (I'm good with bridge and rod adjustments....man's gotta know his limitations).