Can't connect with my Epiphone casino

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  1. fred4321

    fred4321 Tele-Meister

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    Hi,
    I'm not sure I'm in the right forum.

    I'm seeking some input from the experienced guitar players here on a problem I am vexed with.

    I had a slump last year with playing my guitars-lost my mojo with them, so I bought an Epiphone casino with P90's to compliment my MIM Tele to try and pick myself up.

    I don't gig, play primarily on my own (kids, mortgage, job).

    Initially I loved the feel and sound of the Casino guitar, but found over time I was playing it less, feeling sorta disconnected and limited with it. I even put on some Thomastik Jazz Wounds to get a different sound, but still disconnected.

    My friends love the Casino after they have played it and have saiud to me not to sell it. My son's friend had a go at it, played some beautiful notes and it sounded great.

    But for me-nothing sparks.

    Recently I rediscovered my TELE after watching some YouTube videos about Teles. Put some pure nickel strings on it. Picked it up and fell back in love with it. Can't say my guitar playing mojo has returned though but I do have a connection to it.

    I recently had a thought to cull my other guitars (some cheap acoustics and the Epiphone - running out of space), trim it down to the Tele and my Martin acoustic and buy myself a MIA Tele...all will be good.


    But, I keep hearing my friends say-don't sell.

    Any opinions would be great.
    cheers
     
  2. src9000

    src9000 Poster Extraordinaire

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    Well, you probably won't get what you put into it, but if you ain't loving the guitar, move it on.

    I'm kinda going through a similar process, the trouble is most of what I got is garbage - really. They are projects that I no longer care to complete. I've already trashed some stuff, cheap necks and a body not worth the space they were taking up.
     
  3. Tony Done

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    If it doesn't work, it doesn't work, sell the damned thing. I've got an '82 Westone Rainbow I (335 knockoff) that is much the same. Others say it is a great guitar, which it is in a technical sense, but I've spent a fortune in time and pickups trying to get something I like out of it, without success, the semi-hollow thing doesn't work for me. If I had any strength of character I would just sell it instead of letting it sit there frustrating me.

    FWIW, I'm a big fan of P90s. - I would be looking at the Fender Modern Player Thinline Deluxe. I've tried it and liked it a lot.
     
  4. onenotetom

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    I really like mine, your friends and your kids buddy likes yours, even the Beatles loved theirs. If it does not do it for you I say move on as their is someone out there that will get some use out of it.
     
  5. Del Pickup

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    I'd say that you should hang onto it - at least until you're absolutely certain that it's not for you. There's nothing worse than sellers' regret - about 30 seconds after you've handed something over to the buyer!

    A Casino is a totally different beast to your tele - both in terms of tone and body size. The two guitars will have you approaching them differently - even down to how you hold them or the length of the strap and how the guitar sits against your body. It takes time to adapt to these things sometimes - however trivial it might seem to be.

    It might even be that you need to find the right songs to play on the Casino to make it feel or sound right to you.

    When I think Casino, I immediately see and hear John Lennon - Revolution, Get Back, Don't Let Me Down - but also Tom Petty songs can work well on a semi-hollow or hollow body guitar - Mary Jane's Last Dance, Won't Back Down come to mind.

    Maybe even try it in open tuning and break out a slide. Simple Elmore James stuff sounds great on my semi-hollow Samick and Gibson 339.

    Unless you need the cash, I say you should persevere with it.
     
  6. brandonwhite

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    First guitar I ever bought was an Epiphone Casino, back when I was 15. I loved it at first, but played it less and less after I bought a Tele at 17. Ended up selling the Casino for car insurance money. I felt like it wasn't very versatile. I love P90s, but those were just not the most usable set I've played.
     
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  7. mimmo

    mimmo Friend of Leo's

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    I hear you.
    I do love 335 like big bodied guitars but I finally came to accept that they are not for me, it does not depend from the pups, the neck, or whatsoever. I simply cannot manage to play such a big body. To each their own, if you don't feel comfortable with it for any reason just move on and never look back.
    Just my 2 cents.
     
  8. nosuch

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    If you like your tele better nobody on a tele forum will blame you. ;-)
    What is your problem with the casino – the feel or the tone? If it's the feel that bothers you just move it.
    If it's tone ....
    I've heard they use pretty beefy pickups – maybe different, vintage specs P90s would work better for you?
     
  9. sbpark

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    That's what I did recently. I thinned the herd, and am just keeping two Teles; 52AVRI and a Classic 50s. Redundant yes, but can't part with either. And keeping a J45, D28 and 000-15m. Sold the rest including a Casino I just picked up used. Made $10k so far and still have to sell a gorgeous SG Standard and the Casino along with a bunch of other stuff including speakers, stands, pedals, etc. paid off my credit cards in the process. Only debt I have now are student loans and a car payment. Feels better having less debt and actually is liberating having less guitars. Only guitars I've ever really bonded with were Teles.

    I'd say sell it. If you regret it there are always plenty of Casinos in the used market.
     
  10. Lobomov

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    Sell ... having a guitar that just collects dust brings no joy.
     
  11. brookdalebill

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    They are extremely popular/common guitars, but I never got them, either.
    I'm not a P90 fan.
    You could put it under the bed and forget about it for awhile.
    Just play your other guitar, or sell/horse trade it.
    Someone else might love it.
    Perhaps give it away.
    It can (perhaps) bring joy to both you, and the recipient.
    Dunno.
     
  12. mexicanyella

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    Do Casinos have a center block, like a 335? I'm thinking they might be hollow. My cousin had a Casino and I decided it wasn't my thing about 3 seconds into trying it...but to be fair, it could have used some setup adjustment.

    I've played 335s and Dots before and thought they were kind of cool, and I know they have center blocks. They seemed richer-sounding, sustainier and less lo-fi, somehow.

    I say play it or sell it, unless you are a guitar curator.
     
  13. charlie chitlin

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    This is why they make different kinds of guitars.
    It's a damn good thing that nothing is for everybody.
     
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    Had a Riviera P93 and a Dot, LOVED the sound when others played them, but I just could never make either of them work for me the way my Tele or Strat does. The Dot went to a neighbor's kid for dirt cheap and the Riv got traded in on a Jaguar.

    I hated to let the Riv go as I do love the sound of P90s AND I love semi hollow guitars, but as has been said, some guitar/player combos just don't seem to work. In my mind there is nothing worse then a guitar that just takes up space.

    I am now trying to find someone who has one of those Gibson or Epi Blueshawks in stock to see if I can make one of those sing.

    I say let it go and find something that really does talk to you.
     
  15. Tony Done

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    I did a bit of research which indicates full hollow, but I still keep wondering if it has a block under the bridge. - I know that Ibanez does things like that.
     
  16. Pointmonger

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    I had the same issue with my Casino. Loved p90s, but that Guitar never sat well. Then I played an Epi 339 P90 Pro and fell in love. Just fantastic. I recommend trying one out
     
  17. screamin eagle

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    If you don't need the money I'd say don't sell. That being said, I know the feeling of not bonding with a guitar. But I also subscribe to the fact that mojo doesn't produce sound. Don't go chasing the mojo dragon that is. While I want my guitars to inspire me to play, ultimately my playing satisfaction comes from accomplishing my musical goals, not what gear I have.

    I'm very fortunate to have acquired a '63 Es335 from the family of a deceased friend. It has all the mojo I could ask for, but it doesn't make me play any better. Sure it might influence me in certain and different ways than say a dreadnaught or an archtop, but I'm not more satisfied with my playing just because I'm playing that guitar.

    If you're in a rut, don't blame the equipment. Go get inspired musically and climb out of that rut. If you still can't bond with the casino at that point then maybe it's not the guitar for you. But give it that chance first.
     
  18. fred4321

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    This is reassuring reading everyone's replies.
    I persevered and and tried other songs to play and just riffed but just couldn't get into it. Guitar sounds great-terrific action but...
    I pulled out 000-15m and the tele and it was easy to be inspired.
    Maybe it is just this guitar. The idea of a hollow body really appealed to me (I love acoustic guitars) and the sound of the P90's but it's not gelling. I feel limited with it.
    I'm getting the idea that it may be best to let it go to someone that will get the most out of it.


    Here is a rough pic of the guitar in question.
    IMG_1657.jpg
     
  19. Tony Done

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    Ha, that pic answers the hollow body question. With that bridge, I'm certain it has a block under the bridge. If it didn't it would be floating bridge.
     
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    The bridge is fixed.
     
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