Really, I'm genuinely curious what the hell is up with this recent Reverb.com exchange. Did I say something offensive? Despite his weirdness and pushiness throughout, I remained calm and polite, as far as I could tell. I was really interested in this guitar, so I was trying to keep things cool, regardless of the fact that he was obviously a freak. FWIW, asking price is $1,350 + $80 shipping. Me: Hello, Mr. Emery. Can you please tell me if the binding on this guitar is actually white, like it looks like in the pictures? or is it the typical cream color that Gibson uses? Thanks, Keith Him: It is white, on all in Player Plus line. Me: Thanks for your quick response. Keith Seven days later, after some shopping for similar models: Me: Hello, Mr. Emery. I notice that Guitar Center is selling these for $1,200 with the flame top, new with warranty, and free shipping. Is there any way you could come down to their price? Thanks, Keith Him: No, sorry. & you will be sorry if you get one of those leftovers too. I've tried two of them & they are the scurge of what's left of them & b stock, return & picked over gear no one wanted. & you get what they give you. I would stay away, personally. But I'm not going to sway your opinion either way, because that's not how I do business. Just beware of other people's experience with those, that's all. I'm sure I mentioned that in my ad. Check out my feedback before you buy theirs or whomever's. I am a straight up Christian musician & don't have to sell to put bread on my table, just a guy with a gear problem... selling& buying gear that I like, not pushing the leftover crap no one else wants. I hope that helps you out. I don't have to push my own gear, it pretty much sells itself... If you have any other questions, I'll be happy to answer them. Good luck with your decision, I know it's a tough one... Me: Well, I like the fact that it is not figured on top, and the price is at least some semblance of in the ballpark. I wish the shipping was not $80, though. I'd be willing to bite for $1350 shipped. Him: I'm sorry I can't lose money on it. What is your zip code ? It will be 20 Lbs. Or more shipped, with box & packaging. Plus I use FedEx exclusively because of my track record with them. They are the best for handling instruments... Send me your shipping information & I will do some math and see what I can do. If you are closer to me, I may be able to reduce the shipping... It doesn't have to be the exact location, City, State and zip. I will do my best to accommodate you. Eight hours later (I had been at work all day, so I had not replied to the above): Him: If you would like a shipping quote, I will need, at least your zip code. your profile doesn't have it listed. I am trying to work with you to try to put a deal together. but I can't ship for free sorry, or lose money. I hope you can understand that. the price listed is as low as I can go & I have to charge for shipping. I am obviously not a big chain store that offers free shipping with purchase. If you are no longer interested just let me know & I will not worry about a quote. & I wish you good luck with your purchase from guitar center... Me: Hello, My zip is [my zip]. Keith Him: I'm sorry, I can't help you on the shipping. Since you live on the extreme west coast shipping will cost more than $80 for me @ $94.13, with my discount to the penny ! & that is without an exact address. So I am sorry, but I am guessing that we can't do business, as $80 was too much. Plus I have a clause in my shop rules that states that I adjust shipping up or down, depending on the buyers address. I am sorry but I can not sell & ship gear for less than it's worth & lose money. I wish you good luck in your search... But please beware of the big chain store issue I spoke about earlier. You will be wasting time & money on the leftovers, I did it twice & it took almost a month, all totaled to finally get my money back. You will have better luck finding something on reverb. That you can at least see & read about the seller & their performance before you buy. The Player Plus line is a great guitar all around & very under rated. And sure to increase in value of the years. I really hope you find one that you like, with a price that you can live with. They are great ol' school Gibson ! Regards Me: Hello, It's more the recent sales that I'm looking at than anything. $1,200 is the average in mint condition, based on three sales on Reverb within the last few days. So, you selling it for that is definitely not you selling it for less than it is worth. I'll be thinking about it, but for now I'm going to take a break and focus on other things. Thank you for all your help, and I truly wish you good luck with the sale. Keith Him: I am just going to pass on this transaction. I'm not concerned about what "everyone else" is doing. As I said before good luck with your search. The Condescending attitude is more than noted. ("You can't fire me; I quit!) Me: Excuse me, but you seem to be reading something that is not there. There was no condescension from me. Please re-read what I wrote. Keith Him: You're excused, no need for any more contact with me I will not be reading anything else from you ! I will not be selling to you... If I see an order with your name on it, I will cancel the sale ! Have a great time searching for your perfect deal. I hope you end up with something from guitar center. You surely deserve it. It was pure joy dealing with you. -------------------------- All I see here is a disagreement on price, with my personal valuation coming from recent (as in literally within the past two days) Reverb sales, and an "I'm-softly-backing-out-the-door" and genuine wish of good luck statement from me. On top of that, even though I knew I was dealing with a freak, I agreed to pay over the going average, just because I liked that it was a plain top, and appreciated that it wasn't Guitar Center. How the hell did it get so rude, personal, and sarcastic here? I just stated the fact of the very recent going average on Reverb, and politely said no thanks. That seemed to really set this "Christian" off down the path to Hell! Man, people are freaks. Really want that guitar, though!