Can i borrow a bigsby like this?

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  1. Newbcaster

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    https://www.ebay.com/p/Bigsby-B16-T...090744000/20012660772?iid=392167873622&chn=ps

    i HATE aluminum. I think something like this should be made out of brass.

    I have a small metals foundry in my back yard, which is really fancy talk for a thick ceramic pot and some tongs.

    If someone would loan me one for like 2 weeks I'd be much obliged.

    What I plan to do is:

    Make a Plaster mould of it.

    Melt wax and pour it into that mould.

    Alter the shape a tad via scraping and carving and of course, delete the logo....

    Surely someone here has one?

    It will be sent back to you in the same condition I receive it in of course and the plaster casting process does no damage I know of to your aluminum bigsby.

    Basically Im spraying your bigsby with just a skosh of carnauba wax so it doesnt stick into the plaster and thats it.

    Cleaning it off and sending it back.

    If it works Ill send you one too.

    Newb
     
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    Keep in mind that brass is more than 3x heavier than aluminum; a Bigsby B-16T of aluminum is listed as 11.7 oz., but in brass will weigh about 2.34 lbs.

    Ever cast magnesium? It's even lighter than aluminum (just more flammable!).

    I saved this handy materials weight chart:
    http://www.coyotesteel.com/assets/img/PDFs/weightspercubicfoot.pdf
     
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    Yeah, I know its heavier, but it looks cooler too!! I just love the look of brass. I have a wigsby, but i was gonna save that for something like a Spectrum 5 build.

    Hands down the wigsby is a better trem but it looks like crap imho unless its on something futuristic.

    Worst case scenario I'll cast one out of beer cans and just live with the aluminum if the weight is just too much.

    i love that chart!! Thanks!
     
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    I have to admit, brass has a classy look & feel to it. :)
     
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    What about buying a Chigsby? That way you have the rollers, bearings, string pins etc to hand rather than having to turn them yourself, leaving you to cast the frame and arm, drill the required holes etc.

    For brass, you could always weight relieve it with some artistically drilled holes in the frame and omitting the panel with the name on it to make a more open 'spider' frame.
     
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    Not a bad idea!!
     
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    The main problem with B-16 is that you have to shim the neck and give it some angle. I had one and couldn't get with that angle. Be sure that you will like it before doing anything

    That's why I am bonded with SGs and not with Les pauls. That neck angle
     
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    This is what I was going to suggest.
    I was going to see how well I could replicate the Bigsby on my old Country Gentleman, (in aluminum) but after considering I’d have to completely disassemble it, including pressing out the bearings, packing around it with sand ( I had not thought of using a plaster mold), and other factors that would not be advantageous to a 60+ year old piece of kit, I decided to ditch the project.

    I do like the idea of brass, though. :cool:

    Sure hope you will post a detailed thread with lots of pictures if you do this project.
     
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    Someone show me a B16 Chigsby, I’ll buy it, so I can chop it up without taking a beating on price.

    I’m tempted to take up this offer, except I love aluminum. Brass, maybe a B6 copy for my 6120.

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    anyone have a link for a cheap as chips Chigsby? i think if its that cheap Ill buy 2. but how cheep we talking?

    I'm pure Scots on my dad's side and Korean on my mother's...I'm even more parsimonious than they.
     
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    sadly, i checked dhgate, aliexpress and ebay and nothing came up for a b16 under the general search "bigsby tremolo, or tremelo"

    Maybe I can have someone trace and upload a full scale of it and approximate heights and thicknesses and I can cannibalize the parts off of a chigsby that is cheaper?
     
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    I searched vibrato they popped right up at aliexpress
     
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    B16-style, too? All the Chigsbys I've ever seen have been B5 or B7 style
     
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    You are right I don’t see a B16, my mistake.
    Good luck with the project I like the idea
     
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    Hey Newb, I would rather not pull my intact B16 but I could depending on arrangements. I also have a B16 I chopped and the corresponding build won’t be done any time soon. I believe I still have the Tele pickup riser portion I sliced off.

    Bigsby has the outline available online. It’s close, but they are not 100 percent accurate, probably because MIA Bigsbys are hand finished.

    All I want to know is, are you going to pull the string bar and bearing assembly or leave them in? Will you also be able to cast in aluminum? PM me if you’re interested.

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    Hey mang!!

    Drfinitely gonna have to have you pull it apart and send it to me please.

    Yes and please send me the part you hacked off!! (Why did you do that lol ;-p)

    Seriously though i will send you one in brass and aluminum

    Ill pm you my addy. When do you think you can get it to the mail box?

    Thanks man!!

    You saved me peeing 2 hundo down the toilet!!
     
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    Ha, they are pricey...but this seems like a cool project. You are in my neck of the woods too, so there's always that.

    I'll try to get it to you before I head out of state in a few days.
     
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