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Can Anyone Help me Date/Estimate Value on my Unique Telecaster?

Discussion in 'Vintage Tele Discussion Forum (pre-1974)' started by KyleSzalayMusic, Nov 7, 2017.

  1. KyleSzalayMusic

    KyleSzalayMusic TDPRI Member

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    Also when taking off the neck I could tell this is most likely the first anyone has tried taking anything off. (Or at least a really long time)

    Paint was literally bonded to the pick guard and neck, that I couldn't help but feel sad about taking away haha.
     
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    It's clear from the pics that the body has been refinished which explains the confusion over the colour. Did they even use Bergundy Mist as late as this?

    Saddles are also non period and the bridge pickup is not like any Fender I've ever seen. Don't know enough about neck markings from this period so I'll leave that for others to comment. Hardware? Pots?

    It's a cool looking guitar and if it plays and sounds good enjoy it.
     
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    What tells you it has been refinished? I don't believe it has been, but is a strong possibility
     
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    in the neck pocket there is a split where the wood has split and came away, it wouldn't be covered in paint if it hadn't been refinished.
     
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    The neck and scratchplate were also replaced before the paint was set properly.
     
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    If you're talking about what I think you're referring to, there isn't a split in the wood in the pocket where the neck joins the body.
    That is a section of thicker paint that seem to be making many circles.

    Also I know this guitar has been gigged it's entire life.
    Could it be possible that from being in a hot car trunk so much the paint warmed up and solidified a bit to the neck and bottom of pick guard?
     
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    are you referring to the section with extra paint in circle formations?
     

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    This photo, look at the body between the right side of the pickup and the neck, the left side should be the same. The paint had to be applied after the piece on the left side broke off or it would be bare wood.

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    Oh shoot I see what you're talking about. Bummer.
    There's no possibility that It's supposed to be like that?
     
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    Good point. Yes, be very careful!!!
     
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    $2.5 - $3K I reckon, very cool looking refin early 70's tele.

    CP.
     
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    I would hate to not be able to play this at shows but would also hate to see anything happen to it!
    Very true point
    The cables are diagonally crossing,
    So this is a pre 70's Tele..?

    Also if it is refinished what does that do the value of the guitar.
     
  13. KyleSzalayMusic

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    What tells you this?
     
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    The paint has stuck to the neck where it was screwed tight, the paint also has large flat spots where the scratchplate was touching it, the paint hadn't hardened enough before reassembly.

    The diagonal route is in the wood under the scratchplate, it is not there on your guitar which probably dates it to 70/71/72 given the allowance needed by the serial number.

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    Awesome! Serial is 293329 So maybe 70 or 71?

    Thanks again everyone I'm learning so much! Also really cool to get some insight on the history of what my grandpa did to this guitar. I know he bought it new.

    I now understand what he means by diagonal.

    Any way to narrow this down to find out 70 or 71?

    Also what tells you the neck and pickguard has been replaced?
     
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    Does the "neck pocket notch" possibly indicate earlier- around '68 or '69?

    I remember seeing some photos of Old Fuzzy's here on TDPRI that showed the differences between years....


    Edit: found the photos online using Google ("Tele neck pocket notch")
     
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    If you call Fender they are very helpful and may be able to offer a more precise date.

    Also, I say play it at gigs! Enjoy it. You said it's been gigged it's whole life, keep it that way. As someone else said just keep a close eye on it
     
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    Just tie a pit bull to it at gigs...
     
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    Yes I agree.
    I believe this guitar is worth more than bedroom playing. It deserves gigs! I will have to keep a super close watch on it.

    I believe I remember hearing this was a 68 or 69 a long time ago when this was still my grandpas, but I can't be sure.

    Is anyone sure their aren't any telecasters made with this body in 68 or 69?

    I do believe this is original neck and pickup guard from hearing how special this guitar is.
    I don't know about the refinish though, Scotts reasoning seemed pretty legit.
    I would take a closer look but I already put her back together and don't wanna take her apart again.
     
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    I didn't say the neck and scratchplate had been replaced, just put back on the body before the paint had set properly.
     
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