Can anybody tell where this Tokai was made?

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by milocj, Sep 13, 2019.

  1. milocj

    milocj Friend of Leo's Ad Free Member

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    Bought this with an offer quite a bit below the asking price that I didn't think the seller would accept. It plays and sounds pretty nice and should be even better once I level the frets.

    I initially assumed it would be MIC but now I'm not sure and any serial numbers or stamps are under the layers of finish. It has a two hole truss rod cover and the Tokai headstock emblem looks like it could be a real inlay. Any thoughts on age and/or place of manufacture?

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    backporchmusic Friend of Leo's

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    No idea but it is very interesting.
     
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    Looks odd to me, the two screw tr cover and age make me think Japan but it looks like some knockoff or home made guitar. The body and headstock look home made.

    Is it a bolt on neck?
    Maybe someone put the neck on a home made body?
     
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  4. milocj

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    I think it is fairly old. The pickguard is homemade and the humbucker is obviously added on. It's a set neck and has the route for the original P90 that the Tele pickup sits in.

    Maybe the combination of the white and then lavender overspray is throwing off the looks of the shape?
     
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    Could be? The body edge looks distorted in the pic, especially under the controls and on the butt end of the body in line with the lower part of the bigsby where its shadowed.
    If it is out of shape it could also be from heavy sanding when refinishing?
     
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    Looks like a partscaster. That neck and headstock looks like the lawsuit type made in Japan 70s/80s and the rest looks like a conglomerate of parts.
     
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    I think what that probably is is a Tokai Les Paul Doublecut Junior clone that's been stripped and modded into a two pickup guitar. The control layout looks about right for a Junior with a switch added between the two, which is about the only place you could add one without routing, and the pickguard is clearly aftermarket.

    A very quick look on Google suggests a fake number of MiJ doublecuts, but no Chinese ones - either way, I think that's the model you want to research to get to the bottom of what this one is.
     
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    The neck joint is wrong for a Tokai Junior.
     
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    Yes, looks like someone glued and adapted a Tokai/LoveRock veneer logo onto a 'wrong' (for a genuine Tokai) headstock shape?
     
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    It's hard to say what they have done but it doesn't look like any Tokai I have seen before. The headstock does look unusual.
     
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