Can A Looper Pedal Do This?

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  1. Steve 78

    Steve 78 Friend of Leo's

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    My current band (still in the embryonic stage) will use a drum machine so we know the exact BPM for each song ahead of time.

    What I want to do is something like this, for a live performance:

    - Play and record a verse rhythm part.
    - Loop it and play the verse lead part over it.
    - Turn it off during the chorus.
    - Start the loop again during the next verse and again play the lead line over it 'live'.

    So I understand I need a looper with quantize to do this. Does the quantize stretch the recorded loop or just make the loop length end at the closest beat/bar? I don't really want anything stretched.
    Is it possible to preset the loop BPM and length so it will end the recording automatically?
    I think starting the loop off with a manual switch will be accurate enough, but is there the option of switching using an external clock signal? (MIDI controlled perhaps?)
    Can I record multiple separate loops which can then be triggered separately or together? How many? If I recall correctly, some loopers allow you to overdub the loops as many times as you like with the option of switching the last overdub on/off. Is there anything more powerful than this?

    Thanks for your help!
     
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    You can get looper pedals that will do the 4 items you bullet pointed. You (and anyone playing with you) will have to have impeccable timing even if you have quantized loopers. You don't need a quantized looper, but it may make it a little easier.

    I feel like I have good time, but when I started using a very simple looper (TC ditto) I had to tighten up. There was also a little learning curve with the looper, but they are all like that I expect.
     
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    What you need is midi clock sync to drum machine. I believe Pigtronixs Infinity Looper has all features you need.

    New Ditto X4 also has 2 loops and midi now.
     
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    Thanks guys. I'm definitely expecting a learning curve as far as timing goes. It looks like the midi clock sync is the way to go. Infinity and Ditto X4 both look good - I'll have to try them out. Cheers!
     
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    Here is a new product that allows you to sync a Digitech Jamman with jamsync with midi clock, very cool.

    http://www.customliveelectronics.co...s/24-syncman-jamman-synchronisation-midi-korg
     
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    boomerang 3 will also sync to midi. you would have to play the verse live/create the loop live as the rang doesn't do stored recordings.. but isn't that what a computer is for anyway?
     
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    Exactly, I am going to run some pre-recorded drums and keys via computer but I want to keep the guitars as live as possible, hence the live looping. Cheers.
     
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    Just with my own experience, playing a looper in a live band is a disaster, not unless you have an extremely good timing and in tight lock with the BPM.... but since you will be using some Midi, it might work for you.
     
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