somebodyelseuk
Tele-Meister
Yer jack socket's wired the wrong way round.
BUZZ when TOUCHING the strings...?
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Sea Devil
Friend of Leo's
You can test the bridge ground without a multimeter and without removing the strings. Just connect the control plate and the bridge plate from the outside. Tape a wire on, use the blades of a pair of scissors, whatever. If it makes a difference, the bridge ground is either missing or compromised.
OMG. Do people even read threads before replying???
Wulf
Tele-Afflicted
of course not...catch latest one or 2 posts ...then pipe in
Sea Devil
Friend of Leo's
I hope you're not referring to me! I read the whole thing. The OP has been waiting for a string change to check the bridge ground.
Wulf
Tele-Afflicted
good man...not everyone does you know
i feel for this poor bloke...i think he is at his wits end with the whole proceedings
he gets a bit revved up on occasion...i still think he should open his guitar up and have a look...even if that eliminates it from the problem
Skol
Wulf
Yes, I will be "opening it up" over this Thanksgiving weekend, because I finally have some time. First I'll look at the jack wires, then investigate the bridge ground situation.
Wulf
Tele-Afflicted
great stuff my man...let us know what you find!!!
Please open the guitar, everybody here is wating me including
Wulf
Tele-Afflicted
Dont pressure the lad...his head will start spinning and then blow the top off itPlease open the guitar, everybody here is wating me including
Wulf
Tele-Afflicted
Patience patience my friend.....no good jumping up and down like Tigger...(tiggers like bouncing...just ask Winnie the pooh)But it´s a whole week already
Best book of all
Wulf
Tele-Afflicted
strange bear...always with his paw in hunny....best mate called piglet?...hmmmBest book of all
and thats before we mention Poohsticks
Well, I'm at a loss.
I checked the jack: it is wired correctly.
I removed the bridge, the ground seemed intact, I sanded the bottom to insure good contact, and put it back on.
I insured none of the grounds are touching the shielded cavity walls. I even taped them to be sure.
I'm still getting a reading on the meter, so something is still wrong.
I checked the ground solder points: they look fine. I know solder can be deceiving, so I guess my next step... the only other thing I would know to do is to re-solder the grounds, I guess?
WAIT. I don't think the tone pot is grounded?
Jack ground (sleeve) > back of tone pot > tone cap > tone pot lug > NOWHERE. I am right? Do I just need to ground the tone pot? There is a solder drop on the back of the tone pot where it looks like a ground wire WAS? Something was soldered there, and isn't now....
Also, the shielding tape in the cavity doesn't appear to be grounded to anything either...
Lemme see if I can get a decent picture... (just for the tone pot connections)
Cap is back of pot to outer lug
Wire is middle lug tone pot to output lug vol pot
The pot itself does not appear to be grounded
I checked the jack: it is wired correctly.
I removed the bridge, the ground seemed intact, I sanded the bottom to insure good contact, and put it back on.
I insured none of the grounds are touching the shielded cavity walls. I even taped them to be sure.
I'm still getting a reading on the meter, so something is still wrong.
I checked the ground solder points: they look fine. I know solder can be deceiving, so I guess my next step... the only other thing I would know to do is to re-solder the grounds, I guess?
WAIT. I don't think the tone pot is grounded?
Jack ground (sleeve) > back of tone pot > tone cap > tone pot lug > NOWHERE. I am right? Do I just need to ground the tone pot? There is a solder drop on the back of the tone pot where it looks like a ground wire WAS? Something was soldered there, and isn't now....
Also, the shielding tape in the cavity doesn't appear to be grounded to anything either...
Lemme see if I can get a decent picture... (just for the tone pot connections)
Cap is back of pot to outer lug
Wire is middle lug tone pot to output lug vol pot
The pot itself does not appear to be grounded
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Well, I grounded the tone pot, and I grounded the shielding tape. At home, there's no difference.... but keep in mind: this buzzing has only been happening at the rehearsal space; I wasn't able to re-create it at home; and the outlet at the rehearsal space tested fine. Unfortunately, there's a very good likelihood we won't be rehearsing again until January... so this one might have to go on the back burner
FWIW, when I test the bridge to the jack nut, it now reads around 7 (previous reading was 86.7)
FWIW, when I test the bridge to the jack nut, it now reads around 7 (previous reading was 86.7)
Wulf
Tele-Afflicted
Fingers crossed my friend...fingers crossed...the tone pot should be grounded to vol pot and to the switch...one wire connecting them all will do for thatWell, I grounded the tone pot, and I grounded the shielding tape. At home, there's no difference.... but keep in mind: this buzzing has only been happening at the rehearsal space; I wasn't able to re-create it at home; and the outlet at the rehearsal space tested fine. Unfortunately, there's a very good likelihood we won't be rehearsing again until January... so this one might have to go on the back burner
FWIW, when I test the bridge to the jack nut, it now reads around 7 (previous reading was 86.7)
Well, the switch and pickups and bridge all come into a common ground on the back of the volume pot.
So now I'm thinking... the bridge was grounded to the volume pot, the jack was grounded to the tone pot. But the only connection between the vol pot and tone pot was the hot wire, which means the ground was broken and the ONLY thing grounded was the tone pot?? By connecting the vol and tone pots via a ground wire, now the entire guitar is grounded...?
Or, did I ground the strings/vol pot when I touched them (I am ground), and the tone pot was grounded via the jack/amplifier.... IDK.... just hoping this thing worked.
Wulf
Tele-Afflicted
Only way to know now is give it a whirl at rehearsal...keep us posted as to how it works
if we have helped you it makes me happy...as does a successful outcome!
Good Luck My Friend
Its been entertaining its a shame i wasnt able to sit with you as you looked through it
keep in touch
Wulf
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You're not ground. You're a noise antenna. Which attracts whatever noise is in the environment. If you touch something grounded, that particular noise (if that's the noise you're hearing ... it might not be) goes to ground.
I don't recall you reporting the resistance reading between the bridge and the hot on the jack. But unfortunately you're past the point where the thread is now too long and scattered for people to read/follow (I tried). A summary of symptoms/findings would help.
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