butterscotch from water-based stain?

[Jimmy C]

I'm starting a pinecaster and I want to finish it with tru-oil. I'd like it to have a hint of butterscotch blonde, though. I've read that water-based stain is best under oil finishes, but does anyone have advice on what brand and/or color I should look for? Any tips on application are welcome--this is my first project. Thanks!

 

[Colt W. Knight]

I'm starting a pinecaster and I want to finish it with tru-oil. I'd like it to have a hint of butterscotch blonde, though. I've read that water-based stain is best under oil finishes, but does anyone have advice on what brand and/or color I should look for? Any tips on application are welcome--this is my first project. Thanks!

Its pretty tough to dye/stain pine evenly. I would actually recommend trying some amber shellac instead.

 

[Stratified]

Check here for Minwax stain color combo for butterscotch:
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecast...6259-blackguard-partscaster-project-pics.html

There is a pic of the three open minwax cans, but it appears the pic of the finished guitar is gone. There seems to be a pic of someone else's guitar that used the same recipe. Personally, I think the shade is a little intense for me, but I bet it could be adjusted without to much difficulty. However, it has a lacquer top coat.

(Besides trying on scrap) you might consider spraying the water stain with a preval sprayer.

Here is another thread with minwax water stain rubbed on, followed by tru oil:
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaster-discussion-forum/53011-tele-project-finally-done.html

It's not butterscotch, but minwax followed by tru oil seems to work.

NOTE: neither of the links I've provided deal with pine. Colt's warning re staining/dying pine should not be taken lightly.

Some strategies you might investigate for pine is a wash coat of shellac to prevent uneven staining, pre-stain conditioner (similar to the shellac wash coat, but a thinned poly is what I hear is the content), or spraying the stain. Practicing with any of those options would be wise.

 

[flyingbanana]

I'm starting a pinecaster and I want to finish it with tru-oil. I'd like it to have a hint of butterscotch blonde, though. I've read that water-based stain is best under oil finishes, but does anyone have advice on what brand and/or color I should look for? Any tips on application are welcome--this is my first project. Thanks!

Hi. Welcome to the forum.

Find an oil soluble dye or tint and mix up the appropriate ratios of colors to achieve a milky concentration when mixed with Tru Oil. If you can find some methoxylated alcohol, it will make this mixing job easier.

 

[Jimmy C]

Its pretty tough to dye/stain pine evenly. I would actually recommend trying some amber shellac instead.

Thanks for the warning, Colt. You've got me rethinking things. Maybe I'll coiunt on the tru-oil to add enough color (?) If I go the shellac route, will the tru-oil still penetrate?

 

[Jimmy C]

Check here for Minwax stain color combo for butterscotch:
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecast...6259-blackguard-partscaster-project-pics.html

There is a pic of the three open minwax cans, but it appears the pic of the finished guitar is gone. There seems to be a pic of someone else's guitar that used the same recipe. Personally, I think the shade is a little intense for me, but I bet it could be adjusted without to much difficulty. However, it has a lacquer top coat.

(Besides trying on scrap) you might consider spraying the water stain with a preval sprayer.

Here is another thread with minwax water stain rubbed on, followed by tru oil:
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaster-discussion-forum/53011-tele-project-finally-done.html

It's not butterscotch, but minwax followed by tru oil seems to work.

NOTE: neither of the links I've provided deal with pine. Colt's warning re staining/dying pine should not be taken lightly.

Some strategies you might investigate for pine is a wash coat of shellac to prevent uneven staining, pre-stain conditioner (similar to the shellac wash coat, but a thinned poly is what I hear is the content), or spraying the stain. Practicing with any of those options would be wise.

Thanks for the links and the suggestions, Stratified. I'm glad I joined this forum...

 

[Jimmy C]

Hi. Welcome to the forum.

Find an oil soluble dye or tint and mix up the appropriate ratios of colors to achieve a milky concentration when mixed with Tru Oil. If you can find some methoxylated alcohol, it will make this mixing job easier.

Thank you, flyingbanana. Is methoxylated alc like denatured alc?

 

[allen082]

Its pretty tough to dye/stain pine evenly. I would actually recommend trying some amber shellac instead.

+1

this was the method I used for my pine build.

 

[Colt W. Knight]

Thanks for the warning, Colt. You've got me rethinking things. Maybe I'll coiunt on the tru-oil to add enough color (?)I wouldn't count on that. If I go the shellac route, will the tru-oil still penetrate? The shellac will adhere to the wood just fine, and if you want to put tru oil on top of shellac, that will work just fine as well. [/QUOTE

 

[Shepherd]

You need to use a conditioner before you stain pine to get an even finish.

 

[jamie cowan]

allen082 That guitar is sweet. I like it!