right on, nice guitar. I've actually done matte black precision bass with no grain fill before... so yup, am away that ash has grain that is double d deep. In that very first pic I posted, you can see the grain start to show thru the finish... and I like that effect quite a bit. It's not as deep as your grain, so perhaps a partial fill will be the ticket. perhaps a single grain fill and let it recede. still working things out in my head so I appreciate the input.