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But if this ever-changing world in which we live in

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  1. USian Pie

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    Paul McCartney: Advocate for excessive prepositions in song lyrics
     
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    That doesn't make me give in and cry. Can't you just let it be?
     
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    That line is actually well-rendered in the Queen's English, considering placement of the preposition:

    "...but if this ever-changing world in which we're living..."


    It's certainly not as bad as Sammy Hagar's "hot, sweet cherries on the vine." Yeah, vine-ripe cherries. Sure, whatever you say.

    Or the Doobie Brothers singing, "the sheriff and his buddies with their samurai swords," in the tune China Grove. [Ahem] samurais are Japanese, not Chinese, ya numbskull.

    Just goes to show...if you're searching for truth in popular music, you better have your filter engaged.
     
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    How come you didn't bring this up Yesterday? Is busting on Macca something that we're going to be doing Everyday? I wonder what it's going to be Tomorrow?
     
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    You guys see the new bond theme is done by Billie? I say good for her
     
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    “This is the sort of bloody nonsense up with which I will not put."

    https://brians.wsu.edu/2016/11/14/churchill-on-prepositions/
     
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    Yup...it always bugged me...but it's Paul and he's an amazing writer.
    I always thought he could have drawn ''live" out to 2 syllables "li-ive"...but he must have thought of that.
    Or just leave the first "in"...out.
    Like they say in advertising, "Good English makes bad copy."
     
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    I just wonder WHEN it's going to be Tomorrw.
    Yes. If you are going to go "grammar-police", at least spend the time and energy to listen to - and quote - the lyric correctly!

    article: the
    pronoun: ye, it, you, him, such
     
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    The original song lyrics, according to Sir Paul, were:


    But if this ever changing world in which we're living
    Makes you give in and cry

    Say live and let die
    (Live and let die)


    When the Bond movie and associated theme song were first set to be released, Ian McDonald penned a song review where he commented on the improper English of what he believed the song lyric to be, i.e.; But if this ever changing world in which we live in, and the controversy began then and there.

    Over the years, Paul McCartney has played it cheeky on the topic of those lyrics, at times saying they were sung one way, at other times the other. It's like he enjoys having us on.

    If the song had been originally released on the album Red Rose Speedway (Live And Let Die was created during the recording sessions from that album), we would have the liner notes with the original song lyrics, or so I can only imagine.

    Okay, I'm gonna shut up now.

    :(
     
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    Well, I'll be danged.
     
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    It's not as bad as calling him "Macca".
     
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    It's pretty common among his fans.
     
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    I think a song lyric is considered to exist in the realm of being poetic rather than prosaic and as such is not held to the rules of grammar....it's more important how the wordplay hits the ear and the emotion it evokes.
     
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    I've seen criticism in the past on this take it even a step farther, as follows.

    "But in this ever-changing world in which we live in...

    Why would he say that three times?"



    Because you're a knucklehead--that's why. ;)
     
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    I didn't say it wasn't common.
     
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    This topic reminds me of the Bob Dylan song Hurricane. "for something that he never done". It's not like he had to use done instead of did to rhyme with anything. But he has written a lot better songs than anything I've ever come up with so who am I to criticise.
     
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    Rhymes with ONE, that gets emphasis and a bit of a pause.
    Not typical rhyming, but, hey ..it's Bob.
     
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