Buddy Rich On The Mike Douglas Show

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  1. ZackyDog

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    There's no doubt he is a gifted drummer, but he also disparages Glen Campbell and Chet Atkins. :(

    I felt sorry for Mike and his other guests.

     
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    Glen had more talent in his extended pinky than Rich did in his entire body.

    So did Chet.

    JMO YMMV
     
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    He was a freakishly talented drummer though I never liked his drumming much. He's on another plane technically. He literally started playing drums professionally before he could read. He grew up on tour, no formal training. If you are that good it's hard to tolerate willful simplicity.

    Apparently a horrible human being--have you ever heard the recordings of the bus rants, where he's yelling at the band? Just sputtering rage.
     
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    Yes, I have and agree.
     
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    Buddy played great.
    Buddy ran his mouth.
    Buddy is arguably as famous for being an, uh, appendage as he is for his brilliant drumming.
    There are many anecdotes, jokes, and stories about him.
    Big (rim?) shot.
    Bye, Buddy.
     
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    Yes, it's . Doesn't make pleasant listening.
     
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    Nice rug.
     
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    It's really sad that someone with so much musicality had such a restricted concept of how music touches the audience. If he really couldn't hear how great Chet Atkins is- not to mention what a lovely person he had a reputation for being- then it was Buddy's ears that were lacking. Imagine going on national TV and running down a gentleman like Chet! What a schmuck.

    That doesn't take away from what he could do on a snare drum, but you have to balance the virtuosity with being a decent human.
     
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    When this was on my old man went nuts...he hated BR...but to my old man if it wasn't C&W it wasn't music.
     
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    To be fair, lots of people ran Chet down--not for his playing, but for his production. Slickness, strings, simple pop moves: he was always being accused of bowlderizing country music. I'm not saying that's fair, just that it was a common critique at the time. Buddy Rich remains a damaged person with a bad toupee and a bad attitude
     
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    Isn't that the epitome of an oxymoron succinctly illustrated? :eek::eek::eek::lol::lol::lol:
     
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    Biggest Pr#K I ever met!
     
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    when guys get this angry, they're usually feeling desperate about something

    all Rich had was his art ever since he was 2, he didn't do school

    and he saw the art form that fed him tank in popularity, and all his mentors and heroes die

    as he got older he got angrier, and he thought browbeating was the way to keep his art form alive and up to the prior standard

    but no one wants to be around a ***** with a chip on his shoulder, so where does that leave your art? it leaves it bitter and alone, that's where

    art can't live by art alone

    Buddy Rich is just another version of the story of Midas

    and that's pretty sad, in the end
     
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    My next-door neighbor's (and best friend growing up) grandfather toured all over the world with Buddy as his recordist. He used to record everything with a 3-track reel-to-reel machine (stereo plus a center track) and I've heard a lot of those tapes. He passed away about 5 years ago and I believe all of those tapes are still in my friend's possession. Since he recorded pre-show and post-show stuff there is no doubt Buddy would be ranting on those too. My buddy's grandpa said Buddy was a handful, and we all know that, but watching him play live was a magical thing. Nobody could touch him at his peak, but yeah...quite the a-hole, lol.

    I wouldn't have wanted to be in his band either but I sure love his playing.
     
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    love his playing, too, first guy to convince me that yes, drums could play melodies

    can't play drums myself, but it seems to me his technique disappears, and all you get is feel and music

    who taught Art Tatum?
     
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    Buddy Rich was a jerky guy and as talented as anyone to ever play drums. I honestly find his playing over the top and his criticism of others unnecessary. I like earthy drummers more than showman.
     
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    He was an unbearable ass and his drumming was simply an extension of his inflated ego.
     
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    Think about the three most successful/most well-known musicians who passed this year.

    2 of them had all kinds of anecdotes that surfaced when they died about how nice they were to everyone they met/people on the street, how supportive to other musicians they were, secret donations to folks in need - and they were great artists.

    The other guy was easily the most succe$$ful but the rememberances were musical ones from other musicians within a small circle .

    And that was about it.


    If Buddy Rich was half the drummer but twice the man he was, maybe he'd be remembered more/better.
     
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    I had a drummer friend who nearly idolized Rich.
    When he finally met him and told him who he was and how much he always enjoyed and respected his playing, Rich said something really rude and brushed him off.
    That was Randy Jones, who played with Dave Brubeck for many years.
    Buddy gave no respect to ANYBODY, AFAIK.
     
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